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So take away the top 4 countries foreign born in each MSA (both MSA's have China and India top 4):
San Jose has 11 countries over 5k with a total 289,375 foreign born pop remaining
Washington DC MSA has 25 countries over 10k with a total of 983,064 foreign born pop remaining. This is no contest. The story would be similar with SF MSA vs DC as well.
And of course NYC has more than both, even if you changed the 10k threshold.
So as I was saying,
San Jose is simultaneously 77% more foreign born and 30% less White than Washington DC.
DC's racial makeup and foreign born proportion is actually far more in line with the nation as a whole than San Jose, which is considerably less white and black, and considerably more foreign born.
You said two things:
1) San Jose's racial make up is more of an anomaly than DC. That is true. San Jose is unique here on a racial level.
2) San Jose's foreign born population is more unique where as DC's is more in line with the nation as a whole. There is not even one shred of truth to this statement.
The 10 largest foreign born groups in the US are:
Mexico
China
India
Dominican Republic
Philippines
Cuba
Vietnam
Jamaica
Colombia
Brazil
74.3% of San Jose's total immigrant population comes from one of those 10 countries.
48.9% of DC's total immigrant population comes from one of those 10 countries.
You can factually make the statement that San Jose is racially unique because it is. Its racial trends are completely different from other parts of the US. However, San Jose is extraordinarily ordinary when we look at where its immigrants come from relative to the rest of the country. They fall in line VERY strongly with the rest of the US. DC's on the other hand do not.
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So as I was saying,
San Jose is simultaneously 77% more foreign born and 30% less White than Washington DC.
DC's racial makeup and foreign born proportion is actually far more in line with the nation as a whole than San Jose, which is considerably less white and black, and considerably more foreign born.
Replace the word "White" with Chinese or Indian, and you're saying the same thing about SJ/ Bay Area just in reverse. SJ's "White" population equivalent is the Chinese or Indian population. That's not making it more diverse, that's just making it more Chinese/Indian than everywhere else in the US, not more ethnically diverse than everywhere in the US.
Last edited by the resident09; 12-23-2020 at 11:18 AM..
African Americans are one of this country's 2 most prevalent racial groups with 400+ years of history, concentrated in the North and South.
So nearly 70% of DCs population is comprised of this country's 2 legacy racial groups. What is impressive about that?
Im so glad this thread gave me the chance to think of this. My current project highlighting the 2 legacy racial groups in this country.
Metro Areas by Whites and Blacks as a Percentage of the Population, 2019
In the context of this the current discussion about visibility of culture, it's quite fitting to look at them as a single group because they define America to the rest of us.
1) San Jose's racial make up is more of an anomaly than DC. That is true. San Jose is unique here on a racial level.
2) San Jose's foreign born populationis more unique where as DC's is more in line with the nation as a whole. There is not even one shred of truth to this statement.
That's not what I said, reread it, and what I said is 100% correct.
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Furthermore, if we extrapolate even further:
African Americans are one of this country's 2 most prevalent racial groups with 400+ years of history, concentrated in the North and South.
So nearly 70% of DCs population is comprised of this country's 2 legacy racial groups. What is impressive about that?
This also makes little sense, by MSA only New York and DC have all four racial groups above 10%. By urban area only NY, DC, and Las Vegas have all four above 10%. SF/SJ doesn't have Black people. Nor does it have, with it's almost nonexistent Black population, any Black diversity. All four major racial groups have their own internal diversity within them. DC, (and NYC for that matter) have ethnic diversity in each of those four groups. Neither Bay Area MSA has all four in high number, so it can't really relate...
Racial grouping percentage by urban area:
New York City/Newark, NY/NJ/CT - Population - 18,680,025 White - 44.1% - 8,242,589
Hispanic - 25.4% - 4,743,589
Black - 16.1% - 3,000,454
Asian - 11.7% - 2,176,725
Native American - 0.3% - 59,871
Pacific Islander - 0.0% - 10,159
Washington DC/MD/VA - Population - 5,066,973 White - 40.1% - 2,031,474
Black - 26.3% - 1,332,380
Hispanic - 18.6% - 916,370
Asian - 11.6% - 586,046
Native American - 0.4% - 18,082
Pacific Islander - 0.1% - 2,718
Las Vegas, NV - Population - 2,165,405 White - 40.1% - 867,437
Hispanic - 32.2% - 697,055
Black - 12.2% - 264,025
Asian - 10.1% - 218,613
Native American - 1.0% - 22,107
Pacific Islander - 0.8% - 17,923
San Jose, CA - Population - 1,797,166
Asian - 39.5% - 709,572
White - 30.1% - 540,664
Hispanic - 23.4% - 420,503 Black - 2.4% - 43.423
Native American - 0.8% - 8,158
Pacific Islander - 0.4% - 7,071
San Francisco/Oakland, CA - Population - 3,557,982
White - 48.0% - 1,1707,950
Asian - 29.6% - 1,052,312
Hispanic - 22.2% - 789,853 Black - 7.8% - 276,285
Pacific Islander - 0.8% - 26,945
Native American - 0.6% - 21,795
In fact Houston and Dallas are on par or either better balanced racially by percentage by urban area:
Dallas/Fort Worth, TX - Population - 5,910,669
White - 39.6% - 2,341,183
Hispanic - 31.9% - 1,887,454
Black - 18.1% - 1,068,756
Asian - 7.8% - 458,423
Native American - 0.4% - 25,974
Pacific Islander - 0.2% - 11,019
Houston, TX - Population - 5,724,418
Hispanic - 40.7% - 2,329,570
White - 29.8% - 1,707,198
Black - 18.4% - 1,054,604
Asian - 8.8% - 503,989
Native American - 0.4% - 24,216
Pacific Islander - 0.1% - 3,239
And this is just by race, if we go in depth and break down each of these individual racial groups more, SF and most definitely SJ will fall further behind.
Last edited by the resident09; 12-23-2020 at 11:21 AM..
This also makes little sense, by MSA only New York and DC have all four racial groups above 10%. By urban area only NY, DC, and Las Vegas have all four above 10%. SF/SJ doesn't have Black people. Nor does it have, with it's almost nonexistent Black population, any Black diversity. All four major racial groups have their own internal diversity within them. DC, (and NYC for that matter) have ethnic diversity in each of those four groups. Neither Bay Area MSA has all four in high number, so it can't really relate...
Racial grouping percentage by urban area:
New York City/Newark, NY/NJ/CT - Population - 18,680,025 White - 44.1% - 8,242,589
Hispanic - 25.4% - 4,743,589
Black - 16.1% - 3,000,454
Asian - 11.7% - 2,176,725
Native American - 0.3% - 59,871
Pacific Islander - 0.0% - 10,159
Washington DC/MD/VA - Population - 5,066,973 White - 40.1% - 2,031,474
Black - 26.3% - 1,332,380
Hispanic - 18.6% - 916,370
Asian - 11.6% - 586,046
Native American - 0.4% - 18,082
Pacific Islander - 0.1% - 2,718
Las Vegas, NV - Population - 2,165,405 White - 40.1% - 867,437
Hispanic - 32.2% - 697,055
Black - 12.2% - 264,025
Asian - 10.1% - 218,613
Native American - 1.0% - 22,107
Pacific Islander - 0.8% - 17,923
San Jose, CA - Population - 1,797,166
Asian - 39.5% - 709,572
White - 30.1% - 540,664
Hispanic - 23.4% - 420,503 Black - 2.4% - 43.423
Native American - 0.8% - 8,158
Pacific Islander - 0.4% - 7,071
San Francisco/Oakland, CA - Population - 3,557,982
White - 48.0% - 1,1707,950
Asian - 29.6% - 1,052,312
Hispanic - 22.2% - 789,853 Black - 7.8% - 276,285
Pacific Islander - 0.8% - 26,945
Native American - 0.6% - 21,795
In fact Houston and Dallas are on par or either better balanced racially by percentage by urban area:
Dallas/Fort Worth, TX - Population - 5,910,669
White - 39.6% - 2,341,183
Hispanic - 31.9% - 1,887,454
Black - 18.1% - 1,068,756
Asian - 7.8% - 458,423
Native American - 0.4% - 25,974
Pacific Islander - 0.2% - 11,019
Houston, TX - Population - 5,724,418
Hispanic - 40.7% - 2,329,570
White - 29.8% - 1,707,198
Black - 18.4% - 1,054,604
Asian - 8.8% - 503,989
Native American - 0.4% - 24,216
Pacific Islander - 0.1% - 3,239
And this is just by race, if we go in depth and break down each of these individual racial groups more, SF and most definitely SJ will fall further behind.
Your stats are bogus. Look this nonsense up again please.
Every metro is coming up over 100% because you should be looking at 'Hispanic by Race' which lists Non Hispanic Whites separately, and in your dreams is the SF UA whiter than DC.AS IF.
Your stats are bogus. Look this nonsense up again please.
Every metro is coming up over 100% because you should be looking at 'Hispanic by Race' which lists Non Hispanic Whites separately, and in your dreams is the SF UA whiter than DC.AS IF.
Asians are about to overtake Whites in the SF UA.
The stats come from the same place you get yours: data.census.gov. If these are bogus so is every stat you post in this forum. There was a typo that was my fault. The San Francisco Bay Area is 35.1% white with 1,250,314. However, the point still stands that was being made. DC is more racially diverse than any other metro area in the US and the foreign born population in DC is more unique to national trends than San Jose is. The Bay Area is certainly more racially unique and more foreign born.
Last edited by As Above So Below...; 12-23-2020 at 11:46 AM..
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Your stats are bogus. Look this nonsense up again please.
Every metro is coming up over 100% because you should be looking at 'Hispanic by Race' which lists Non Hispanic Whites separately, and in your dreams is the SF UA whiter than DC.AS IF.
Asians are about to overtake Whites in the SF UA.
Lol the old FAKE NEWS cry when statistical data is laid out, why so glum? This is only data on C-D of all places.
1. I didn't make up the stats, just reposted them.
2. Are you saying that San Jose does have more than 2.4% Black population in it's UA?
3. Prove it.
4. Las Vegas is more ethnically diverse than SF/SJ. King of the West!
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