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Obviously. There has to be a difference between people for there to be a way of distinguishing. Otherwise, there’s nothing to distinguish. The Curry or Booker or Klay shade becomes muuuuuch more of a rarity in Haiti than it does in USA. This is why the distinguishing word is more extreme. And again, it’s not a generic phrase, it’s a conversational phrase. It’s definitely common.
PS, you do have to live somewhere to really understands it
I do not agree, my experiences in Haiti and in the US, Canada also don't. We have a a racial category Grimaud and Grimel in Haitian society. Those folks most of the time are NOT bi-racial (at least not recent Euro ancestry). I'd know because that's most of my family and a significant minority of folks from my families region(s) (Mirebalais, Dame Marie, Jacmel).
That being said, A LOT of born Haitians are very ignorant and purposely say things to disparage lighter Haitians (which Grimel and Grimaud are the majority but the narrative focuses on biracial/middle easterners more). I called my mother "Mixed" growing up and she almost chased me out of the house. She always says she is "Black" (in Kreyol ofc). I learned the distinction early.
On the flip side, my darker Haitian friends LOVE to claim I don't have a similar experience to them because I'm "Light" except I am most certainly not. When a portion of a group has a dominant feature that portion tends to try to overstate it's predominance and others get cast out.
Ask how many folks call "Mulates", Grimel or Grimaud? That's a better starting point to get an honest answer from Haitian.
Look at people like Michel Martelly for the typical Grimaud but Stephanie Villedrouin is the "Biracial" class that people in DR, Cape Verde, Brazil tend to have A LOT more of and they are not as rich as the ones we have in Haiti.
Yea I think the core city need to be weighed more heavily. Especially in some of these “in diverse” northern metros. My opinion, not based in science.
Can do! Here are the biggest cities proper's by the same methodology. Lower number implies more diversity. I do see this list as somewhat irrelevant though. It doesnt capture all that makes us the city since suburbs are a huge part of what fuels the city and vice versa:
Jersey City, NJ: 9
Oakland: 16
New York City: 23
Sacramento: 29
Irving, TX: 34
Chicago: 35
Arlington, TX: 38
Houston: 39
Boston: 40
Stockton, CA: 40
San Jose: 41
Orlando: 41
North Las Vegas, NV: 41
Tampa: 43
Dallas: 44
Garland, TX: 45
Long Beach: 46
Yonkers, NY: 48
Aurora, CO: 49
San Diego: 50
Fort Worth: 50
Milwaukee: 51
Charlotte: 54
Plano, TX: 54
Philadelphia: 55
San Francisco: 55
Rochester, NY: 55
Fresno: 56
Los Angeles: 57
Las Vegas: 57
St. Paul: 57
Durham, NC: 59
Anaheim, CA: 60
Buffalo, NY: 61
Honolulu: 62
Winston-Salem, NC: 63
Austin: 64
Frisco, TX: 64
Oklahoma City: 66
Raleigh: 66
Jacksonville: 67
Santa Clarita, CA: 67
Washington DC: 68
Nashville: 68
Bakersfield: 68
Cleveland: 68
Kansas City, MO: 69
Tulsa: 69
Riverside, CA: 70
Indianapolis: 70
Chandler, AZ: 70
Denver: 71
Greensboro: 71
Irvine, CA: 71
Columbus, OH: 72
Newark, NJ: 72
Chula Visa, CA: 72
Modesto, CA: 72
Grand Rapids, MI: 72
Amarillo, TX: 72
Phoenix: 75
Minneapolis: 75
Tacoma, WA: 77
Lubbock, TX: 77
Virginia Beach: 78
Wichita: 78
San Antonio: 79
Tucson: 79
Richmond, VA: 79
Memphis: 80
Huntsville, AL: 80
Atlanta: 81
Baltimore: 82
Albuquerque: 82
New Orleans: 82
Anchorage: 82
Louisville: 83
St. Louis: 83
Pittsburgh: 83
Mesa, AZ: 84
Henderson, NV: 84
Cincinnati: 84
Des Moines: 84
Seattle: 85
Salt Lake City: 85
Omaha: 86
Corpus Christi, TX: 87
Colorado Springs: 91
Birmingham, AL: 91
San Bernadino, CA: 93
Miami: 94
Lexington, KY: 95
Portland, OR: 97
Oxnard, CA: 99
Santa Ana, CA: 104
Detroit: 107
El Paso: 113
Lincoln, NE: 114
Boise, ID: 119
Spokane, WA: 121
Can do! Here are the biggest cities proper's by the same methodology. Lower number implies more diversity. I do see this list as somewhat irrelevant though. It doesnt capture all that makes us the city since suburbs are a huge part of what fuels the city and vice versa:
Jersey City, NJ: 9
Oakland: 16
New York City: 23
Sacramento: 29
Irving, TX: 34
Chicago: 35
Arlington, TX: 38
Houston: 39
Boston: 40
Stockton, CA: 40
San Jose: 41
Orlando: 41
North Las Vegas, NV: 41
Tampa: 43
Dallas: 44
Garland, TX: 45
Long Beach: 46
Yonkers, NY: 48
Aurora, CO: 49
San Diego: 50
Fort Worth: 50
Milwaukee: 51
Charlotte: 54
Plano, TX: 54
Philadelphia: 55
San Francisco: 55
Rochester, NY: 55
Fresno: 56
Los Angeles: 57
Las Vegas: 57
St. Paul: 57
Durham, NC: 59
Anaheim, CA: 60
Buffalo, NY: 61
Honolulu: 62
Winston-Salem, NC: 63
Austin: 64
Frisco, TX: 64
Oklahoma City: 66
Raleigh: 66
Jacksonville: 67
Santa Clarita, CA: 67
Washington DC: 68
Nashville: 68
Bakersfield: 68
Cleveland: 68
Kansas City, MO: 69
Tulsa: 69
Riverside, CA: 70
Indianapolis: 70
Chandler, AZ: 70
Denver: 71
Greensboro: 71
Irvine, CA: 71
Columbus, OH: 72
Newark, NJ: 72
Chula Visa, CA: 72
Modesto, CA: 72
Grand Rapids, MI: 72
Amarillo, TX: 72
Phoenix: 75
Minneapolis: 75
Tacoma, WA: 77
Lubbock, TX: 77
Virginia Beach: 78
Wichita: 78
San Antonio: 79
Tucson: 79
Richmond, VA: 79
Memphis: 80
Huntsville, AL: 80
Atlanta: 81
Baltimore: 82
Albuquerque: 82
New Orleans: 82
Anchorage: 82
Louisville: 83
St. Louis: 83
Pittsburgh: 83
Mesa, AZ: 84
Henderson, NV: 84
Cincinnati: 84
Des Moines: 84
Seattle: 85
Salt Lake City: 85
Omaha: 86
Corpus Christi, TX: 87
Colorado Springs: 91
Birmingham, AL: 91
San Bernadino, CA: 93
Miami: 94
Lexington, KY: 95
Portland, OR: 97
Oxnard, CA: 99
Santa Ana, CA: 104
Detroit: 107
El Paso: 113
Lincoln, NE: 114
Boise, ID: 119
Spokane, WA: 121
Providence New Haven and Springfield are noticeably absent. What was the criteria for cut off, 200k?
^White Plains, New Rochelle, Baldwin(CDP), Freeport, Westbury, West Hempstead(CDP), Nyack, Nanuet(CDP), Peekskill, Elmsford, Elwood(CDP), Deer Park(CDP), Riverhead(CDP), West Haverstraw and Ossining are some NYC suburbs in NY that come to mind.
Some others may be Hamtramck MI, Evanston IL, Aurora IL and Joliet IL.
Ok, so here's a racial diversity ranking based on the same criteria I used in the "Demographics - 2019" thread, but updated with As Above's Urban Area data.
The ranking is actually the combined sum of two rankings where a lower score is better:
Ranking one is the UA's ranked by their least represented racial demographic. This especially "hurts" San Jose and Miami because of their abysmal Black and Asian populations respectively. I think this is an important ranking because even if the other 3 demographics are living in relative harmony, the 4th will probably feel ostracized in a community with very low visibility for them.
Ranking two is the UA's ranked by their two biggest demographics. This particularly "hurts" places like Memphis and Phoenix because of their White/Black and White/Hispanic majorities respectively. I think this is important because having two big demographics will still create an "us vs them" power dynamic against the two smaller demographics.
Ranking one is the UA's ranked by their least represented racial demographic. This especially "hurts" San Jose and Miami because of their abysmal Black and Asian populations respectively. I think this is an important ranking because even if the other 3 demographics are living in relative harmony, the 4th will probably feel ostracized in a community with very low visibility for them.
Huh? Who said this?
Quote:
Ranking two is the UA's ranked by their two biggest demographics. This particularly "hurts" places like Memphis and Phoenix because of their White/Black and White/Hispanic majorities respectively. I think this is important because having two big demographics will still create an "us vs them" power dynamic against the two smaller demographics.
What in the world?
Sorry but an emphatic NO on both counts. Youre saying White and Blacks in DC are somehow unified in some sort of antagonistic alliance against Hispanics and Asians???? HUH? forreal?
EDIT: I appreciate your data and ranking, but these 2 paragraphs are headscratchers.
^White Plains, New Rochelle, Baldwin(CDP), Freeport, Westbury, West Hempstead(CDP), Nyack, Nanuet(CDP), Peekskill, Elmsford, Elwood(CDP), Deer Park(CDP), Riverhead(CDP), West Haverstraw and Ossining are some NYC suburbs in NY that come to mind.
Some others may be Hamtramck MI, Evanston IL, Aurora IL and Joliet IL.
You got it!
All the below are in New York State. While there are some very diverse cities on this list, none made the cut for the list of super diverse smaller cities I put together in post previous to this. I was using 40 and below as the cutoff:
Westbury: 44
Elmsford: 45
West Haverstraw: 46
Freeport: 47
Baldwin: 48
Peekskill: 48
New Rochelle: 54
White Plains: 58
Nanuet: 58
Ossining: 62
Riverhead: 63
Nyack: 66
West Hempstead: 84
Deer Park: 88
Elwood: 104
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