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You have a combination of high demand, tons of open land (see this street view) and a black population that's very rare. And DC has a keep up with the Joneses culture where newness is very expected.
Its not 'walkbale' its just dense apartment near the train which is fine and for the better.
That’s what it is now. It’s part of the huge downtown Largo redevelopment. The plans were posted before I think. Really the point I’m making is Black people actually move into these buildings for the most part which is currently happening in Ward 7 too. But that doesn’t mean other cities aren’t seeing this to. We need to look at demographic data.
I mean, maybe you’re right that the culture of DC will allow an urban downtown renaissance over the years that is unapologetically Black in areas of Ward 7 and 8, but I just can’t believe DC proper is the only city where this is possible.
That’s what it is now. It’s part of the huge downtown Largo redevelopment. The plans were posted before I think. Really the point I’m making is Black people actually move into these buildings for the most part which is currently happening in Ward 7 too. But that doesn’t mean other cities aren’t seeing this to. We need to look at demographics data.
What other city would be doing this. Maybe some Jersey burbs of NYC in like the Palisades lol? Maplewood? IDk...Defintely would not be mostly black...Most development in other black hubs would be SFH McMansions.
Are you saying you prefer bodega shopping than living across the street from a Harris Teeter, Giant, Safeway, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Wegmans, Target (DC Version with Groceries), or Walmart(DC Version with Groceries)?
Bed Stuy has a lot more than just bodegas, as I've mentioned. There are no black neighborhoods in DC with access to more than one supermarket and some local grocery. My comparison is Bed Stuy and EOTR DC right now. I do with DC had more Northeastern style bodegas though.
But as we've discussed, there really isn't anything like EOTR DC in NYC. I definitely am looking forward for more retail in DC in the next few years/decades.
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar
That’s what it is now. It’s part of the huge downtown Largo redevelopment. The plans were posted before I think. Really the point I’m making is Black people actually move into these buildings for the most part which is currently happening in Ward 7 too. But that doesn’t mean other cities aren’t seeing this to. We need to look at demographic data.
I mean, maybe you’re right that the culture of DC will allow an urban downtown renaissance over the years that is unapologetically Black in areas of Ward 7 and 8, but I just can’t believe DC proper is the only city where this is possible.
DC's history, status, and demographics are unique so it's not surprising that the type of development coming to Black DC isn't being replicated to the same extent in other cities.
Decided to compile a list of large cities (250k plus) are at least 1/3 Black. I may be missing some but the only cities that meet that criteria are:
Chicago
Philadelphia
Jacksonville
Charlotte
DC
Detroit
Memphis
Baltimore
Milwaukee
Atlanta
New Orleans
Cleveland
Newark
Cincinnati
St. Louis
Greensboro
Durham
Buffalo
I'd assume it would be more likely to see targeted development in black neighborhoods in these cities (plus the big rich cities like NYC and LA)
What other city would be doing this. Maybe some Jersey burbs of NYC in like the Palisades lol? Maplewood? IDk...Defintely would not be mostly black...Most development in other black hubs would be SFH McMansions.
Am I the only one that is perplexed by that? What makes DC an outlier for Black urban development?
Bed Stuy has a lot more than just bodegas, as I've mentioned. There are no black neighborhoods in DC with access to more than one supermarket and some local grocery. My comparison is Bed Stuy and EOTR DC right now. I do with DC had more Northeastern style bodegas though.
But as we've discussed, there really isn't anything like EOTR DC in NYC. I definitely am looking forward for more retail in DC in the next few years/decades.
DC's history, status, and demographics are unique so it's not surprising that the type of development coming to Black DC isn't being replicated to the same extent in other cities.
When you say unique, do you think DC is the only city in America where this is possible?
When you say unique, do you think DC is the only city in America where this is possible?
I think the short answer is Yes. Other cities have more obstacles, state governments to deal with, not as much political will, not as much demand, not as much money/capital, etc.
I think lack of demand is a big one--A lot of large urban cities in the US are losing black population to the suburbs and a lot of the places where black people are moving to are suburban in nature. City-Data caters to a niche, the vast majority of black people would much rather live in suburban areas.
I think the short answer is Yes. Other cities have more obstacles, state governments to deal with, not as much political will, not as much demand, not as much money/capital, etc.
I think lack of demand is a big one--A lot of large urban cities in the US are losing black population to the suburbs and a lot of the places where black people are moving to are suburban in nature. City-Data caters to a niche, the vast majority of black people would much rather live in suburban areas.
Also, the suburbs that many move to in say the NYC and Boston areas are pretty much built out, with maybe a few exceptions.
Something like this business district near the St. Albans stop in Queens may be viewed as an older example of a TOD with similar demographics and even then, it is just different: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6919...7i16384!8i8192
Also, the suburbs that many move to in say the NYC and Boston areas are pretty much built out, with maybe a few exceptions.
Something like this business district near the St. Albans stop in Queens may be viewed as an older example of a TOD with similar demographics and even then, it is just different: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6919...7i16384!8i8192
All those census block groups are dominated heavily by single family homes which we all agree middle class Black people usually live in. The one block group that does have a 51% multi-unit percentage only has a median income of $69,000.
All those census block groups are dominated heavily by single family homes which we all agree middle class Black people usually live in. The one block group that does have a 51% multi-unit percentage only has a median income of $69,000.
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