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Old 12-13-2022, 02:55 PM
 
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Bluefield Virginia/Bluefield West Virginia

Beloit Wisconsin/South Beloit Illinois

Newport and Covington, KY basically feel like an extension of downtown Cincinnati and probably gets more foot/bike traffic between two states than just about any place in the US outside of DC to Arlington and folks who take the ferry from Jersey to NYC.

Also Route 340 around Harpers Ferry you pass into three states within 2 minutes and practically don't even realize it.

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Old 12-13-2022, 04:09 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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There is a 12 mile section of boundary between El Paso County Texas and Dona Ana County New Mexico where the Rio Grande, which shifted its banks several times in the mid 1860s into the early 20th century. In 1906 a dam was built upstream in Elephant Butte New Mexico to end these shifts. But if you have been on this 12 mile stretch, it is not concurrent with today's Rio Grande. This has created a perfect storm for this thread and I believe its quintessential example. It started with the Country Club dispute:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_Club_Dispute

As a result you are literally shifting between Texas and New Mexico without anyone knowing. One road, Westside Road, you can cross back and forth several times in 12 miles.

https://goo.gl/maps/T3ReKYBwFgWx6Dji6

Here's the case of a vineyard that you enter in Texas, but either side of the road going in either direction is in New Mexico. The stretch of state road that it dips into Texas totals 0.3 miles before flipping back to New Mexico.

https://goo.gl/maps/t7xuujL4ZokCSies9

https://goo.gl/maps/geno81d1cRQ2PYQg6

The second link is to the entrance of the vineyard.


Then 1/10th of a mile north, back into New Mexico.

https://goo.gl/maps/9xWAUgKxCnq8MsHcA

Looking at the same vineyard in Texas from the state border.

The entire 12 mile border of these two states associated with the Rio Grande looks this way.
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Old 12-13-2022, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Wisco Disco
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Somewhere partway into the third martini .. then woah .. I'm in the state of inebriation ...
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Old 12-13-2022, 04:24 PM
 
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The whole border is pretty non-distinct.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7036...7i16384!8i8192

My big answer is the Nashua River rail trail that goes from Ayer, MA to Nashua, NH. You bike over the border and there aren't any indications you do so.

Or the only thing to differentiate RI and CT is the change in paving and a granite post
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9852...7i16384!8i8192

When you're driving through Douglas State Forest in Douglas, MA, you enter CT and the paving doesn't change. There's a granite post though.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0220...7i13312!8i6656

Same road back into Mass is even less descript. No sign, no paving change, no granite post.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0234...7i13312!8i6656
I think I’m terms if “random land borders” NH is pretty distinct on any main roads. Mostly cause there is typically a Fireworks store or a Tobacco shop or Ski shop dodging taxes or like a mall 50ft over the border.

It’s no Mississippi River but compared to MA/CT or NY/PA I think there are more signs
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Old 12-13-2022, 04:27 PM
 
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Ugh, I hate driving that stretch of interstate. It's the only practical way to get between Nashville and Atlanta so it's always CLOGGED with traffic. And you WOULD "almost" be there were it not for the fact that traffic from just past there to the I-75 junction usually moves at about 7/10ths of a mile per hour.
A Chattanooga ByPass to I-75 departing from I-24 just around I-59 to I-75 south of Chattanooga would help alot. I-24 needs to be 3 lanes each way between Murfreesboro and Monteagle.
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Old 12-13-2022, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Bellingham MA and Woonsocket RI.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0170...7i13312!8i6656

To your left..Wonsocket

To your right.. Bellngham.



Blackstone MA and Bellingham RI

this street view is in Woonsocket, looking pat he stop sign is Blacktone MA

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0154...7i13312!8i6656

Theee are more examples. My mom lives in Woonsocket and places in that generally area I have no idea what state I’m in. MA is so much more populous than RI sometimes I pull up to stores along the border and there more MA plates. Also MA and RI have similar demographics and no varying architectural styles.
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Old 12-13-2022, 05:36 PM
 
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Bellingham MA and Woonsocket RI.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0170...7i13312!8i6656

To your left..Wonsocket

To your right.. Bellngham.



Blackstone MA and Bellingham RI

this street view is in Woonsocket, looking pat he stop sign is Blacktone MA

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.0154...7i13312!8i6656

Theee are more examples. My mom lives in Woonsocket and places in that generally area I have no idea what state I’m in. MA is so much more populous than RI sometimes I pull up to stores along the border and there more MA plates. Also MA and RI have similar demographics and no varying architectural styles.
I wonder if people in those neighborhoods hang out with each other across state lines.

When I was a kid, all the parents in my neighborhood knew each other because all of the kids went to school together. I wonder if the fact that the kids wouldn't go to school together might make them less likely to socialize.
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I wonder if people in those neighborhoods hang out with each other across state lines.

When I was a kid, all the parents in my neighborhood knew each other because all of the kids went to school together. I wonder if the fact that the kids wouldn't go to school together might make them less likely to socialize.
Oh they 100% do. Many kids go to private school, get tutored, play in sport leagues, and most commonly shop over the border. Especially because until 10 days ago weed stores were only open in MA, so there are a lot of shops set up right on the border/ RI is a tiny state…. so small that it’s faster to breeze down 146 (RI and MA) than to get from south central MA to southeastern ma, than to drive west and get on 495 (in MA only).

Also M A N Y MA natives (like my mother and brother ) live in Rhode Island for cheaper RE. When I visit Woonsocket I have a friend in Attleboro MA who’s go to city is Providence.

In MS/HS I had a classmate from Foxboro MA who went to middle school in Providence and High School in Boston. Another kid in his class lived in Bellingham MA, and really only knew Rhode Island. He transferred to our school for sports and never hung out with us outside of school.

In MA and RI there is no state rivalry or what have you or other visible difference - especially on the border. I kind of look at Rhode Island as a cool little brother or just a County of MA tbh (they may not like that but we’ve got counties with more people than their state…))
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Old 12-13-2022, 11:32 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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I grew up only a few miles from a state boundary. As I recall, only the major highways had signs indicating entry into a different state.

I'd imagine there are many thousands of nondescript state crossings in the country.
I was going to say almost any lonesome backroad that crosses the state line.

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Maybe some parts of the KCMO area. I can't remember if Shawnee Mission Pkwy had a sign or not. I think I only knew I was crossing the state line because of the GPS.
Kansas City Stateline Road -- depends on your direction or how you turn off the road. Locals would know but maybe not visitors.
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Old 12-14-2022, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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I wonder if people in those neighborhoods hang out with each other across state lines.

When I was a kid, all the parents in my neighborhood knew each other because all of the kids went to school together. I wonder if the fact that the kids wouldn't go to school together might make them less likely to socialize.
There's a dual-"town" along the Vermont/Quebec border where people on one side of the road live in the US and in Canada on the other. According to old-timers, people used to wander casually from one side of the road to the other to hang out as neighbors would in any other neighborhood. Apparently in recent years however, the US border patrol has become a lot more strict about crossing the border at a non-designated crossing. So now they have to report to the official border crossing to cross, which in turn has put a damper on relations between cross-border neighbors.

This same dual-town has a library that straddles the border with an entrance on each side. Apparently this has become a common meeting point between immigrant families living in each respective country where they can meet in person without having to report to border patrol as long as everyone exits through the same side they came in.
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