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I was referring to the Midwest. Don’t get your mid Atlantic comparison. What does an “eastern” thing mean?
I'm saying that humidity is widespread east of the plains states, but it's not necessarily a demarcator for the Midwest, since there's no distinction with the East Coast.
Here is a map created online that does not use state borders to judge (most of the time) and I think could be a good definition for showing what is Midwest or not. Subregions are also included.
And I don't see why Appalachia is always grouped as it's own region. North Georgia and Alabama is not the same as Pennsylvania.
Anything to put western Pennsylvania in a region other than the Northeast, it seems, even if it means ignoring the differences between the northern and southern Appalachians. It's north of the Mason-Dixon Line, and it's closer to the 75th meridian than the 90th. People just like to pretend that it's farther south or farther west than it actually is.
Also, any map illustrating the Appalachians that leaves out the southern tier of upstate New York is fundamentally faulty. For that matter, geologically speaking, the Adirondack Mountains are the only part of the mountainous Northeast that's not Appalachian, since the Adirondacks are an eastward extension of the Canadian Shield.
And if people are trying to draw the Appalachians as a cultural region rather than a geographic region, well, New England has plenty of what Pennsylvania gets singled out for, so there's no reason to separate them out.
I generally feel like the census boundaries are overall the best boundary, but culturally…infrastructure wise etc. I’d say that the core Midwest stretches from around Omaha/Fargo/Kansas City to about Columbus or so.
I feel like there are several gray areas like the Great Plains, Southern Missouri, parts of Oklahoma and then the eastern portion of the Great Lakes like Northeast Ohio and around Buffalo, and then down to Pittsburgh. All feel kinda grey regionally.
It is generally based on county population. But what we see today is advancing population outside of this restrictive boundary. The new map will include those off the grid and within the general metro area. These outer urban areas should be included.
The frontier density levels for rural counties is marching eastward to the Midwest from the Great Plains. So we are now starting to hit a critical threshold of the emptying out of the Corn Belt counties.
I think that is correct, but I wouldn’t count this region out due to continued agricultural production. But I agree places like Wichita, Salina, many Nebraska cities are in the line of fire. Agriculture is changing, and geography may not save them.
Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota. Get the easy ones out of the way.
Eastern Kansas, Eastern Nebraska
South Dakota is not the midwest. North Dakota is somehow a little more midwestern to me. Not midwest as a state but Fargo and Grand Forks sound like the midwest. Oklahoma is not really in the midwest but not really in the south either. It's more southern than midwest though it does have a midwest flair to it.
Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota. Get the easy ones out of the way.
Eastern Kansas, Eastern Nebraska
South Dakota is not the midwest. North Dakota is somehow a little more midwestern to me. Not midwest as a state but Fargo and Grand Forks sound like the midwest. Oklahoma is not really in the midwest but not really in the south either. It's more southern than midwest though it does have a midwest flair to it.
Of all the states, when it comes to classification, Oklahoma, to me, is one of the most problematic. It's tough to shoehorn parts of the state into any region.
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