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The Flaming Lips, one of my favorite bands, are from OKC. Wayne Coyne used to remark how out of place he felt in his hometown. I don't believe he ever relocated, however (though much of his time is/has been spent on the road)
To mike, calling out my 'lazy' analysis--although I partially agree, the correlation between voting figures in a strongly partisan/polarized national election and how one would vote in a local election is almost assuredly very strong. It is a reality of our current political climate that people rarely vote across the ballot anymore. There were decent numbers of 'Never Trump' Republicans in places like Utah but that was something of an exception on the national level
Love The Flaming Lips – always thought it was bizarre they were from Oklahoma City.
Anywhere in Oklahoma would've been 10000:1 if oddsmakers were soliciting bets from a bunch of people who didn't know where they were from. California would've been 1:1. I saw them in the Buffalo area in mid-September at the end of a weekend-long music festival, and it was fun to watch people's varying reactions...they were not very well-received by people who'd been there for the duration of the weekend and didn't know anything about them. I on the other hand turned up on Sunday night just to see them....
Yeah, maybe those swaths of south Brooklyn that are still White are kind of the last areas with a native conservative population in a truly urban setting. Parts of far south Philly too maybe. Though they’ll be gone in a generation
Guarantee you can find some small urban Rust Belt areas that voted Obama in 2012 but Trump in 2016/2020. Probably a decent number of Trump-supporting blue-collar Dems in those municipalities, though. Some Ohio counties flipped massively between 2012 and 2016; there's a great book called 'Barnstorming Ohio' that investigates this a bit in certain chapters (much of the book is apolitical or at least borderline-apolitical, as it's more of a cultural analysis than anything)
Oklahoma City is probably the most right leaning city and metro in the US, but I could be incorrect.
I also think Jacksonville, FL is way up there.
It's not, old stereotypes die hard I suppose. Jacksonville is among the fastest growing cities and not via relocated bible thumpers or fiscal conservatives.
Yeah, maybe those swaths of south Brooklyn that are still White are kind of the last areas with a native conservative population in a truly urban setting. Parts of far south Philly too maybe. Though they’ll be gone in a generation
There are spots in Chicago too. Canaryville and Mt. Greenwood are known for being majority white, distrustful of outsiders, and primarily R voting. Same with the inner-ring west suburb of Elmwood Park. All are close to or over 10,000 ppsm.
I'd be hard-pressed to think of any urban neighborhoods on the West Coast like that. There may be areas in Spokane that could fit (the city is 87% white).
There are spots in Chicago too. Canaryville and Mt. Greenwood are known for being majority white, distrustful of outsiders, and primarily R voting. Same with the inner-ring west suburb of Elmwood Park. All are close to or over 10,000 ppsm.
I'd be hard-pressed to think of any urban neighborhoods on the West Coast like that. There may be areas in Spokane that could fit (the city is 87% white).
I wonder if that has any correlation with where Polish people tend to live in Chicago. I'm personally pretty far left, majority Polish, and have noted that people of my predominant ethnic group skew right. Anecdotal but I don't think it's an errant observation! I have a much smaller sample size for Hungarians but have made roughly the same observations there. It's not like there's a Cuban phenomenon at play here where you have selection bias, ie a self-selecting group of people who've fled a Communist regime and are obviously likely to flock to the other political pole....
Have been to OKC, BLM signs aren't out of place at all, I would say.
However, rainbow flags would absolutely be out of place in OKC, and I think they're the clear answer here.
Rainbow flags certainly wouldn't be out of place in OKC's gay district, which is well anchored by the nation's largest gay hotel, the District Hotel, formerly the Habana Inn. One of Oklahoma City's council members is gay and recently got the main street of the district totally redone and repaved streets around the hotel.
Someone mentioned Tulsa. Yes, it's definitely more strongly conservative and also more Christian than OKC. Republican state legislators from Tulsa area are even further to the right.
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