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View Poll Results: "American dream"- what state comes to mind?
NY/NJ 21 12.50%
Ohio 40 23.81%
Illinois 8 4.76%
Virginia 6 3.57%
North Carolina 6 3.57%
Georgia 8 4.76%
Florida 8 4.76%
Texas 24 14.29%
Arizona 9 5.36%
California 30 17.86%
Another state 8 4.76%
Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-15-2023, 06:37 PM
 
Location: OC
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I don't care what's in Ohio.

What does architecture have to do with suburbia? Suburbs are defined by the land use patterns and zoning, almost nothing whatsoever to do with architecture.
Do you really think of Spanish style architecture when you think of “typical American suburbia?”
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Old 08-15-2023, 06:39 PM
 
Location: OC
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Actually they do.

Google Spanish Revival homes Ohio you’d see Medina, Dayton, Cincinnati, Toledo….in Ohio show array of fairly historical Spanish Revival or Mediterranean houses.

Newport Beach is similarly built like the Hamptons in NY. Big modern boxes houses by the beach. If you’re looking at similar housing style in Ohio you’d find them, in fewer quantity,near Lake Erie in suburbs like Bratenanl (Tristan Thompson, Kevin Love, Calvin Booth from NBA) or Rocky River (some other athletes whose names escape me now.)-all waterfront and intimidatingly huge and “luxurious”.

So yes, they do exist in Ohio.
Yes and I’ve seen palm trees in Washington.
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Old 08-15-2023, 09:04 PM
 
Location: On the Waterfront
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Actually they do.

Google Spanish Revival homes Ohio you’d see Medina, Dayton, Cincinnati, Toledo….in Ohio show array of fairly historical Spanish Revival or Mediterranean houses.

Newport Beach is similarly built like the Hamptons in NY. Big modern boxes houses by the beach. If you’re looking at similar housing style in Ohio you’d find them, in fewer quantity,near Lake Erie in suburbs like Bratenanl (Tristan Thompson, Kevin Love, Calvin Booth from NBA) or Rocky River (some other athletes whose names escape me now.)-all waterfront and intimidatingly huge and “luxurious”.

So yes, they do exist in Ohio.
Not really. When someone thinks Hamptons, they think this:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...Southampton_NY

Bucolic, beachy estates with privacy either on or right near the beach.

As opposed to Newport Beach which generally looks like this:

https://www.robertmackgroup.com/prop...#view_gallery/

Gorgeous, gargantuan homes but typically much more crowded and built right on top of each other in that typical California 'city suburb" type style right by or on the beach.

They really are so different in terms of built environment.

The Hamptons is a private oasis for most. Newport Beach is swanky but I definitely wouldn't call it private by any measure for the large majority of the city. It's much more typical Jersey Shore than Hamptons in this sense in terms of houses stacked on top of each other. That is the anti-Hamptons.

Also the typical housing stock is far different. The Hamptons is all about stately homes and sprawling estates dotted with some of the most high end landscaping to protect privacy that you will find anywhere in the country.

They are both super pricey enclaves but in their natural form are such different looking areas, exceptions notwithstanding.
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Old 08-15-2023, 10:16 PM
 
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Not really. When someone thinks Hamptons, they think this:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...Southampton_NY

Bucolic, beachy estates with privacy either on or right near the beach.

As opposed to Newport Beach which generally looks like this:

https://www.robertmackgroup.com/prop...#view_gallery/

Gorgeous, gargantuan homes but typically much more crowded and built right on top of each other in that typical California 'city suburb" type style right by or on the beach.

They really are so different in terms of built environment.

The Hamptons is a private oasis for most. Newport Beach is swanky but I definitely wouldn't call it private by any measure for the large majority of the city. It's much more typical Jersey Shore than Hamptons in this sense in terms of houses stacked on top of each other. That is the anti-Hamptons.

Also the typical housing stock is far different. The Hamptons is all about stately homes and sprawling estates dotted with some of the most high end landscaping to protect privacy that you will find anywhere in the country.

They are both super pricey enclaves but in their natural form are such different looking areas, exceptions notwithstanding.
Respectfully disagree.

There are equally sprawling ocean-side mansions in Newport Beach and there are equally closely-built properties in the Hamptons. Not every Hamptons house is built on 10 acres land.

Malibu is similar: some are enormous and sitting on its own, (the ones that are completely tucked in and disappear in the landscaping and private roads.) some are closely hugging each other. (The ones on PCH are extremely small and tightly next to each other.) Depends on the prices and location.
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Old 08-16-2023, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Not really. When someone thinks Hamptons, they think this:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...Southampton_NY

Bucolic, beachy estates with privacy either on or right near the beach.

As opposed to Newport Beach which generally looks like this:

https://www.robertmackgroup.com/prop...#view_gallery/

Gorgeous, gargantuan homes but typically much more crowded and built right on top of each other in that typical California 'city suburb" type style right by or on the beach.

They really are so different in terms of built environment.

The Hamptons is a private oasis for most. Newport Beach is swanky but I definitely wouldn't call it private by any measure for the large majority of the city. It's much more typical Jersey Shore than Hamptons in this sense in terms of houses stacked on top of each other. That is the anti-Hamptons.

Also the typical housing stock is far different. The Hamptons is all about stately homes and sprawling estates dotted with some of the most high end landscaping to protect privacy that you will find anywhere in the country.

They are both super pricey enclaves but in their natural form are such different looking areas, exceptions notwithstanding.
Agreed here.

My impression of Long Island before I visited would be large estates and beautiful homes, similar to Cape Cod or Boston’s North Shore. The Hamptons, even bigger.

When I went, I was very surprised to see it kind of looked like a tract housing developments
with strip malls every 1000 feet lol overrun with Vaping Bros. Hamptons were nice though… nothing too special though. So maybe people just have different experiences when after they visited? But I do know LI has a very bloated image out here.
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Old 08-16-2023, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Respectfully disagree.

There are equally sprawling ocean-side mansions in Newport Beach and there are equally closely-built properties in the Hamptons. Not every Hamptons house is built on 10 acres land.

Malibu is similar: some are enormous and sitting on its own, (the ones that are completely tucked in and disappear in the landscaping and private roads.) some are closely hugging each other. (The ones on PCH are extremely small and tightly next to each other.) Depends on the prices and location.
You are right. However, I think when us on the East Coast think places like Nantucket or the Hamptons we just picture the Kennedy Estate or the Great Gatsby home.

The home from Two and a Half Men is how I originally pictured Malibu/homes in uppity CA.

But as I got older, the two places converged lol
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Old 08-16-2023, 05:17 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Maybe its from my perspective in New York but I am surprised to see Ohio in the lead on this thread.

When I think of Ohio, the FIRST thing I think of is a state with numerous cities (many starting with the letter C lol) not suburbs. Then I think rust belt, football and Lake Erie. In contrast, New Jersey and Connecticut are states that strike me as having a suburban image, not Ohio.
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Old 08-16-2023, 05:55 AM
 
Location: OC
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Maybe its from my perspective in New York but I am surprised to see Ohio in the lead on this thread.

When I think of Ohio, the FIRST thing I think of is a state with numerous cities (many starting with the letter C lol) not suburbs. Then I think rust belt, football and Lake Erie. In contrast, New Jersey and Connecticut are states that strike me as having a suburban image, not Ohio.
The absolute first thing that comes to my mind when I think of Connecticut and New Jersey is “dense parts of the nyc metro”. I do assume Connecticut has some pretty stately areas but not typical American suburbia
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Old 08-16-2023, 06:07 AM
 
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To provide a little more context from those of us familiar with Ohio, here are some of the standout "stereotypical" suburbs that come to mind for me:

West Chester (Cincy suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3515...6656?entry=ttu

Mason (Cincy suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3412...6656?entry=ttu

Beavercreek (Dayton suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836...8192?entry=ttu

Pickerington (Columbus suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8673...8192?entry=ttu

Westerville (Columbus suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1411...8192?entry=ttu

Perrysburg (Toledo suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5401...8192?entry=ttu

Twinsburg (Cleveland suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3277...8192?entry=ttu
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Old 08-16-2023, 06:34 AM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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To provide a little more context from those of us familiar with Ohio, here are some of the standout "stereotypical" suburbs that come to mind for me:

West Chester (Cincy suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3515...6656?entry=ttu

Mason (Cincy suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.3412...6656?entry=ttu

Beavercreek (Dayton suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836...8192?entry=ttu

Pickerington (Columbus suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8673...8192?entry=ttu

Westerville (Columbus suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1411...8192?entry=ttu

Perrysburg (Toledo suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5401...8192?entry=ttu

Twinsburg (Cleveland suburb)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3277...8192?entry=ttu
Middletown, Hamilton, Lebanon (Cincy suburbs), and Kettering and Miamisburg (Dayton suburbs) are also great examples.
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