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What is Arizona? Coastal elites? Arizona is probably just as much part of the "heartland" as Ohio.
The American Heartland more specifically usually means the following;
1. Somewhere with a hot-summer humid continental climate
2. Where the local populace speak with a General American accent
3. That is equidistant to most of the US population
4. Where agriculture and industry dominate or were once dominant
5. Where political, religious and cultural pluralism is rife (not in a socialistic sense, though)
What is Arizona? Coastal elites? Arizona is probably just as much part of the "heartland" as Ohio.
The heartland implies fertile farming land. And a rather central location. Arizona is the Desert Southwest.
There's more to the US than "Heartland" and "coastal elites." I would not call the folks down on the Louisiana bayou to be "coastal elites" and not "heartland."
The American Heartland more specifically usually means the following;
1. Somewhere with a hot-summer humid continental climate
2. Where the local populace speak with a General American accent
3. That is equidistant to most of the US population
4. Where agriculture and industry dominate or were once dominant
5. Where political, religious and cultural pluralism is rife (not in a socialistic sense, though)
Arizona barely ticks any of these boxes.
There is no general American accent. The midwest has a distinct accent, so do southern states.
And by industry, I assume you mean industries associated with the midwest like steel and manufacturing? Because industry dominates everywhere.
So basically, Heartland only refers to the midwest? I hear that term and just think of down home types of people generally not associated with the coasts.
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Originally Posted by Pincho-toot
The heartland implies fertile farming land. And a rather central location. Arizona is the Desert Southwest.
There's more to the US than "Heartland" and "coastal elites." I would not call the folks down on the Louisiana bayou to be "coastal elites" and not "heartland."
Would Arkansas be the Heartland? Or the Mississippi Delta?
So heartland does just mean the midwest? I hear it and think flyover country or anywhere that's not California/New York.
There is no general American accent. The midwest has a distinct accent, so do southern states.
And by industry, I assume you mean industries associated with the midwest like steel and manufacturing? Because industry dominates everywhere.
So basically, Heartland only refers to the midwest? I hear that term and just think of down home types of people generally not associated with the coasts.
I never mentioned the Midwest, though I do think the Lower portion of the region is usually what people associate with America’s heartland. Also, the General American accent is actually well defined, in the 21st century it refers to the Northern Midland dialect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midl...erican_English
There is no general American accent. The midwest has a distinct accent, so do southern states.
And by industry, I assume you mean industries associated with the midwest like steel and manufacturing? Because industry dominates everywhere.
So basically, Heartland only refers to the midwest? I hear that term and just think of down home types of people generally not associated with the coasts.
Would Arkansas be the Heartland? Or the Mississippi Delta?
So heartland does just mean the midwest? I hear it and think flyover country or anywhere that's not California/New York.
I mean I included Texas in "Heartland" so I dun see why not Arkansas. Heartland to me is a mix of the Midwest and South, but not even all of those regions.
The term heartland was always connected with farming and communities that developed thereof. And a general centralised location. Its in the name. "Heart."
Generally fertile, green, not mountainous, could be hilly though. Not too dry, not on the coast. Could be very hot or very cold, but seasonal.
I don't think its a place of necessarily "general accents" though. If anything, a blend of Southern and Northern accents is more "Heartland."
I mean I included Texas in "Heartland" so I dun see why not Arkansas. Heartland to me is a mix of the Midwest and South, but not even all of those regions.
The term heartland was always connected with farming and communities that developed thereof. And a general centralised location. Its in the name. "Heart."
Generally fertile, green, not mountainous, could be hilly though. Not too dry, not on the coast. Could be very hot or very cold, but seasonal.
I don't think its a place of necessarily "general accents" though. If anything, a blend of Southern and Northern accents is more "Heartland."
Think of the show "Roseanne."
George strait sings a song about the heartland. It’s about texas
George strait sings a song about the heartland. It’s about texas
Texas suburbs don’t really give me the “heartland” vibe. That seems more like the Midwest to me. Texas, while sharing some traits with the Midwest and the south, has its own unique vibe/culture, development patterns, housing stock, geography, demographics, etc. The suburbs there look different from southern or midwestern suburbs.
This is what Wikipedia defines as the heartland (although the definition is fluid and not officially defined anywhere).
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The US Census Bureau defines the Midwest as consisting of 12 states: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. Portions of other non-coastal states can be included in the region as well. These may include eastern portions of the Mountain States (Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming) and northern portions of some Southern states, such as Arkansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
Texas honestly just feels like Texas and not any other region. The state is its own thing.
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