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I agree. Just because a city isn't in the limits of the "main city" of an area does not mean everything outside it is a suburb. Long Beach, CA is outside of Los Angeles and has over 400,000 residents and even a higher population density (almost 10,000 per square mile). I don't consider Long Beach a suburb of Los Angeles, but rather a separate city in the area. Same goes for a place like Oakland, CA. It isn't a suburb of San Francisco, but a separate city. Hoboken, Miami Beach, and Beverly Hills are urban cities just separate from the main city limits.
I don't mean to nitpick, but since you have brought this to my attention I must comment. Queens is not a suburb because it is technically part of NYC. It has some suburban-like neighborhoods within it, but nowhere in Queens is in "the suburbs" because it is part of NYC. The city/suburb definition is just a technicality because suburbs can be more urban than the city itself in some instances: take Miami Beach and Miami, for instance. Miami Beach is much more urban in that it is walkable while most areas of the city of Miami itself are suburban in character. If you specifically want me to comment on places that are NOT urban (car-centric, non-walkable, and low-to-medium density) I'd be glad to do so. Until then, I will post some pictures of Brookline, MA - a suburb of Boston in which I had the pleasure of living during one of my years of college. Enjoy!
Using the American definition of suburb as a "low-to-medium density town outside of the city limits," I would like to nominate Westfield (and neighboring Scotch Plains), NJ. It's one of the most beautiful towns I have seen and has a great little downtown area are beautiful streets with mature trees forming a canopy over them. I wish I had pictures to post. My Southeast US pick is Coral Gables, FL: they call it "the City Beautiful" for a reason. Gorgeous Spanish-Mediterranean architecture from the 1920's-1940's in an upscale, tropical setting with a great downtown areas with shopping and dining.
MissionHome, if I were to nominate a town near where you are, I would have to say that San Clemente or Laguna Beach would be my choice. Huntington Beach seems like a very nice town as well. Where you live in Mission Viejo is very pretty but feels isolated due to that most of the homes are in gated communities and connected with 6 lane parkways. Lots of people like that though... different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Here is a great suburb: Pasadena, CA
Lots of charm, a great downtown area, connected by light rail to Los Angeles, home to the Rose Parade and the Tournament of Roses Football Game, and more.
The Rose Bowl!!!
City Hall
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/1443837849_e957a463c3.jpg?v=0 (broken link)
The city if full of charming craftsman bungalows as well
Now that's my kind of suburb
But Missionhome, why would you consider Pasadena a suburb but Beverly Hills not to be a suburb? I would say that they both are.
MissionHome, if I were to nominate a town near where you are, I would have to say that San Clemente or Laguna Beach would be my choice. Huntington Beach seems like a very nice town as well. Where you live in Mission Viejo is very pretty but feels isolated due to that most of the homes are in gated communities and connected with 6 lane parkways. Lots of people like that though... different strokes for different folks, I guess.
I LOVE San Clemente. If we didn't live in Mission Viejo, we would live in San Clemente. It is so beautiful and I love how relaxed it is. I drive my kids down there for surfing all the time or drive them to the Metrolink station to catch the train.
Now that's my kind of suburb
But Missionhome, why would you consider Pasadena a suburb but Beverly Hills not to be a suburb? I would say that they both are.
Technically they both are. I guess it just is the fact that Beverly Hills is totally engulfed by the city of Los Angeles that it doesn't feel really "separate". Beverly Hills just feels like a neighborhood of Los Angeles with all the crowds in the lower portion of the city. The hilly areas with all the mansions is pretty suburban though. I guess they both are suburbs though.
By the way, love your pics of the Boston area! My son would love to go to college back there. We already went as a family and visited Boston College and I'm pretty sure we passed through the city you took photos of when we were driving to BC from downtown Boston. It looked really familiar. Such a gorgeous area, loved it.
Johnson County is the Kansas side of Kansas City. Wyandotte County Kansas is also in metro Kansas City, but it's more of an inner-city atmosphere, and not suburban.
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