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New England is also in the Appalachian topographic belt. I was traveling through rural areas of Enfield and Grafton, NH today and it might as well have been West Virginia in terms of the very steep roads, dense forest cover, completely dilapidated housing stock in many areas along 4A, and old junk strewn out in the yards.
Good point! People tend to forget (including me when someone pointed it out) that the Appalachians stretch into New England and therefore has some of the Appalachian characteristics, strewn trash and all . I noticed that in parts of NH and ME when I was there last year. But then again, I noticed litter and "questionable" people in non-Appalachian parts of the country as well.
However, given the negative connations, Appalachia will always be portrayed in a bad light, despite it's many positive attributes.
its southern nowadays less so my dad is a little confused by it as well and is sort of an idiot by calling it the midwest when culturally it has been the south for years before it ever was callee the midwest
The difference between Southern & Midwestern, to me, is pretty much based on if most people in the region are Southern Baptists or not.
I’ve seen so many different criteria on what’s denotes Southern that there clearly isn’t a consensus on this point. It seems we know it when we see it. Southern Baptist doesn’t do it for me nor does confederate flags. There are cultural indicators like vocabulary (maybe more than accent), cuisine, geographic details, cultural heritage, etc. There has been so much change over the past two generations we might need to consider new measures.
It is probably correct to consider the Arkansas Ozarks as more southern than not. The Missouri Ozarks are harder to classify. I consider the boot heel region to be southern bot Missouri’s Ozarks don’t fit that model very well. There were a lot more outside influences (French, Germans, Eastern European miners, vacationers and retirees, river culture, etc.) so there are many pockets and enclaves of different culture. Maybe the southernmost tier of Ozark (MO) counties are most southern except near the tourist zones. The rest is a mix.
Arkansas Ozarks are southern, Missouri Ozarks are pockets of southern & midwestern. The Mississippi River had some strange influences on immigration patterns. Sungrins had some good points about French & German influences along with the Scottish, Scots-Irish and even Irish influence in the Missouri Ozarks. Lead mining is a major industry as well.
You can hear some very strange dialects in the Missouri Ozarks.
I generally think of Ozarks as more Southern, but I haven't been there, so take it with a grain of salt...
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. I noticed that in parts of NH and ME when I was there last year. But then again, I noticed litter and "questionable" people in non-Appalachian parts of the country as well.
