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Come on dude. The guy is mentioning good points. Cities were developed through a long history of different cultures that slowly made them what they are today. They happend out of chaos, and planning. Looking at how cities were developed is interesting.
Come on dude. The guy is mentioning good points. Cities were developed through a long history of different cultures that slowly made them what they are today. They happend out of chaos, and planning. Looking at how cities were developed is interesting.
Suburbs are completely planned.
Yeah, I know. The war on suburbia is just getting kind of old. Not everyone wants to raise a family in an urban environment. Not everyone wants to pay 300K for a 1,200sf condo when you can get a 3,500sq home (In Omaha at least).
I do agree the suburbs need to be more mixed-use. Live, work, shop, play where you live rather than communiting 30 miles downtown)
The suburban developments of today are nothing like those from 20-30 years ago...I live in a new urbanist neighborhood that is completely walkable, with shopping, schools, parks, library, etc. all within a mile of home. There will be 15,000+ people living here when it's all finished.
I'm an ex-city dweller who swore I'd never live in a planned community, but after a robbery and a few other unpleasantries over the past couple of years, decided to try a new lifestyle.
I use my car *much* less than I did when I lived in a mid-sized city with weak public transit. It's not impossible to have sidewalks and sushi restaurants outside of a commercial district, you know. I think it really depends on which city and which suburb you are comparing.
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Some of the older suburbs like Levittown NY still have a community feel to them, but the newer housing developments with cookie cutter tract housing and not a store within walking distance are horrible. It's like living in a cemetary. I lived in one in California. Folks would pull into their driveway, push the automatic garage door opener and drive inside, never to be seen or heard from. Very lonely place.
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Some of the older suburbs like Levittown NY still have a community feel to them, but the newer housing developments with cookie cutter tract housing and not a store within walking distance are horrible. It's like living in a cemetary. I lived in one in California. Folks would pull into their driveway, push the automatic garage door opener and drive inside, never to be seen or heard from. Very lonely place.
I'm moving to Levittown. What I like is that you can walk to most stores. Obviously it's a bit easier/convenient to drive, but everything is close by that you can walk. There are also buses, so you if can't get a car, it's not a big deal.
Some of the older suburbs like Levittown NY still have a community feel to them, but the newer housing developments with cookie cutter tract housing and not a store within walking distance are horrible. It's like living in a cemetary. I lived in one in California. Folks would pull into their driveway, push the automatic garage door opener and drive inside, never to be seen or heard from. Very lonely place.
Its funny, Levittown is NOT one of the Long Island suburbs I would mention first for having a community feel or a history to it. When it was built in the 1950s it was classic SPRAWL (although better planned than many). There is no train station or central downtown for instance. I guess with the passage of time it is becoming a more mature community and you might be seeing that.
I'm moving to Levittown. What I like is that you can walk to most stores. Obviously it's a bit easier/convenient to drive, but everything is close by that you can walk. There are also buses, so you if can't get a car, it's not a big deal.
Most of those stores you can walk to are spread out in shopping centers on both sides of Hempstead turnpike for several miles. Like I said, the hamlet is a classic suburban sprawl community but it has "matured" with age. It is not as convienant as Astoria for local stores and is best to have a car. Still you will like the access to parks, malls and the beaches. I think you are going to love it there!
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Most of those stores you can walk to are spread out in shopping centers on both sides of Hempstead turnpike for several miles. Like I said, the hamlet is a classic suburban sprawl community but it has "matured" with age. It is not as convienant as Astoria for local stores and is best to have a car. Still you will like the access to parks, malls and the beaches. I think you are going to love it there!
Eh, even here in Astoria it takes me a good 10 minutes to walk to all the stores/restaurants since I'm in a fairly residential area. It's kind of a pain. I honestly think it will be about the same time amount of walking time in Levittown.
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