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Atlanta is the biggest and most influential city in the region, across several states; that's typically what is meant when people say a place is a capital in a geographical and non-political sense. Of course the outer edges of the region won't be quite as influenced as places closer in (Atlanta does has some influence in LA, less so in VA), but that doesn't negate the scope of its regional influence. In much the same way, Boston is the capital of New England but parts of Connecticut are in NYC's metro and I'm sure many people in Vermont probably head to Montreal for big city stuff over Boston.
Yep; Atlanta is central to the region and its influence is all within the Southeast. I'd say the secondary hubs are Charlotte, Nashville, and New Orleans. The larger FL metros' (Miami, Tampa, Orlando) spheres of influence are restricted to Florida which is why I don't really consider them regional hubs. DC kinda is but it straddles the Southeast/mid-Atlantic line.
I can't speak to most of the map, but the line drawing the upland South needs to run below Birmingham and Atlanta. Birmingham has far more in common with Huntsville, Nashville, Chattanooga, et al, than it does with Montgomery, Columbus, and Jackson.
I can't speak to most of the map, but the line drawing the upland South needs to run below Birmingham and Atlanta. Birmingham has far more in common with Huntsville, Nashville, Chattanooga, et al, than it does with Montgomery, Columbus, and Jackson.
Agreed. Although Birmingham self-identifies as a Deep South city and Atlanta is often referred to as such, that's mainly because they are located in states that are commonly grouped as Deep South states. But the Deep South is mostly a geographical region that cuts across states and largely correlates with the Black and Cotton Belts of the lower Southeastern states which is roughly the coastal plain below the fall line. Atlanta and Birmingham are Piedmont cities that weren't as reliant on agriculture and the "peculiar institution" and had a more industrial character from the outset which really makes them upper/upland Southern cities.
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Agreed. Although Birmingham self-identifies as a Deep South city and Atlanta is often referred to as such, that's mainly because they are located in states that are commonly grouped as Deep South states. But the Deep South is mostly a geographical region that cuts across states and largely correlates with the Black and Cotton Belts of the lower Southeastern states which is roughly the coastal plain below the fall line. Atlanta and Birmingham are Piedmont cities that weren't as reliant on agriculture and the "peculiar institution" and had a more industrial character from the outset which really makes them upper/upland Southern cities.
The fall line (which divides the Piedmont and the Coastal Plain) is the divider between the Deep South and Upland South. Birmingham and Atlanta are both on the piedmont
The fall line (which divides the Piedmont and the Coastal Plain) is the divider between the Deep South and Upland South. Birmingham and Atlanta are both on the piedmont
Yes, Atlanta and Birmingham are north of the fall line which is the Piedmont (foot of the mountains). Thanks for saying that explicitly.
The Atlantic coast is all wrong. You can divide it into three segments:
1. The Delaware Bay to the Neuse River
2. The Neuse River to the St. Johns River
3. The St. Johns River to Key Largo
The segment from the Delaware Bay to the Neuse River has a quieter, less developed, more exclusive vibe. The segment from the Neuse River to the St. Johns River has a more classically Southern vibe. The segment from the St. Johns River to Key Largo has a more touristy and Latin vibe.
Atlanta is the biggest and most influential city in the region, across several states; that's typically what is meant when people say a place is a capital in a geographical and non-political sense. Of course the outer edges of the region won't be quite as influenced as places closer in (Atlanta does has some influence in LA, less so in VA), but that doesn't negate the scope of its regional influence. In much the same way, Boston is the capital of New England but parts of Connecticut are in NYC's metro and I'm sure many people in Vermont probably head to Montreal for big city stuff over Boston.
Your overstating ATL 's influence in this region. It stops in GA period.
Your overstating ATL 's influence in this region. It stops in GA period.
Secondary hub city you forgot is Memphis.
This is absolutely preposterous. Period.
If you write a check or withdraw money from an ATM, you are being touched by the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta in MS, as just one example. There are many, many more.
I do not agree with your Deep South definition. I’d take out South Louisiana and only put in Northern Louisiana. Also only Northeast Texas area (Lufkin, Tyler, etc) would count as the Deep South. Why the heck in Brownsville considered the Deep South to you? Have you been there? It’s barely even America.
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