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Does the name hitler serve as a euphemism for every low, evil, violent, selfish, egotistical, hateful, power crazy, vicious, deceptive, lying, ugly, murdering, uncaring, insensitive, psychopathic, sociopathic, mad theorizing, us versus them, sadistic, destructive etc instinct that has been around since way back when, was around before and during WW2, is still around today?
Because it took a lot more than hitler to have done these things in the world back in the 30's and 40's. It had to be in the world and people had to be open to doing those vicious things.
Why was it allowed to happen?
As bad as hitler was, he couldn't have done anything on his own besides fantasize about world domination.
hitler's "use" of the Jews as a scapegoat who he told Germans were "responsible" for the poor economic conditions and poverty in Germany..................This was the old us versus them lie which in this case was used by hitler to be liked by and to bring hope to "ordinary" Germans.
Understandable that it worked because the us versus them seems to usually work but when hitler told the Germans and the world what his "final solution" was..............
That should have made every decent human being THINK! and realize that they were being manipulated, lied to. Some did start to question but most went along with what hitler himself called The Big Lie.
Would I kill hitler if he were a baby?
Better that I could kill all the negative instincts in mankind.
BBC America has been running a Doctor Who marathon and that was the title of one of the episodes. If you could go back in time and see baby Hitler in his crib, would and could you kill him? If not, what would you do to try to alter history? Bribe the art school to take him in as a student? Wait until WW1 to murder him? And would that really make such a difference? The Eugenics movement and the hatred towards Jews was already in place through much of Europe. The master minds of Nazi Germany would still exist along with the horrors committed by Imperial Japan. Oh, in the episode, they didn't kill Hitler. They just locked him in a cupboard.
This was already done in a very nice short SciFi story by I forgot who. Main character went back in time and killed Hiltler. It changed nothing, as WWII still happened.
Your question stems from a naive belief that A Person has really much to say or to do in history. This is how it is presented in official historiography, as this is convenient for the real puppet masters, keeping them in shade. There was a demand, artificially created, for a particular political movement, in a particular country, with a particular goal in mind. That movement required a front face, and quite a mediocrity was placed into such a position. Not him - someone else would have been found suitable and played the role.
I thought about that but each leader has his own unique mind/style/personality and another "hitler" (or whatever his name was) would have done things differently, made different mistakes, had his own unique time frame for say stabbing Stalin in the back in 1939 and invading Russia if he would have invaded Russia in 1943 instead of waiting say to defeat the Allies with the help of Russia and Stalin and then invading Russia.
A different leader might have been told to betray Stalin and to invade Russia but the time frame would have differed.
A different leader wouldn't have had that hypnotic affect on people, wouldn't have devised those vicious anti Jewish lies, wouldn't have had that same crazy temper or hysterical way of reacting, that greed of wanting to be the only world leader so much that he couldn't co-operate with the only other dictator who could have made hitler's sick dreams come true.
Thus hitler changed the course of history but lesson to be learned, couldn't have done anything without the support of evil instincts always found in much of "humanity".
If the terrible Treaty of Versailles was never signed, Hitler could have lived a full life without ever rising to power... I don't know about you guys, but I would rather prevent a paper from being signed than kill a baby.
Good luck preventing that, France and Britain wanted Germany held responsible and they wanted to keep Germany down as a punishment for that war. The British and French populations demanded this, and the government's of these two powers were more than happy to do it. President Wilson was not happy about how it all ended either, and the United states was hesitant to involve itself in international affairs between the wars as a result of our frustration with this treaty. Now would I kill baby hitler if I traveled back in time? Logic says yes he should be killed, but killing a child who at that point was innocent is an act I don't think I could carry out, even knowing its Hitler. I like the idea of removing him from the environment and have him raised elsewhere, maybe even another nation. How about adopt him out to a nice Jewish family who has moved back to the homeland in Palestine. He could be an Israeli Jew, that would be poetic justice. He would be in his 50s when Israel became a nation in 1947, considering that still happened without the war he would have started as the Nazi dictator. Now the Pacific war would still happen unfortunately, but half of a World war is better than a whole one. A Pacific war would still would have likely involved the Japanese, Chinese, United States, Britain, USSR, and of course the smaller nations Japan swallowed up. Without a Nazi Germany a European theater may never have happened.
Funny thread. President Roosevelt was given photos & other evidence of the Holocaust occurring and he did absolutely nothing. What is the Americans love affair with Hitler.....the man they did very little to stop.
Funny (as in strange) that we blame just one man for the war, the Holocaust, the sadism etc. You have to realize much of the world leadership as well as all the players of Nazi Germany (from high ranking Nazi leaders to SS guards to uncaring Germans etc) plus isolationists, haters, US and other non German Nazis, sickeningly enjoyed what was happening, or didn't care what was happening not only to Jews but to other outside groups, to the culture, to the lost pride in being a decent human.
FDR too was part of that hard, uncaring, vicious culture although nowhere near the level of a hitler or other Nazi leaders.
Some people of the 30's and 40's should have looked at themselves as to why hitler got to where he got to. IMO it's not a question of why God allowed this to happen; its a question of why so many people allowed this to happen and it should be thought about with change in culture in mind.
hitler alone could never have gone beyond his own fantasy or in 2014 in a decent world would only be playing video and board games about trying to become the "leader" of the world.........Every FDR let alone every Nazi etc made it all possible.
Without the Holocaust = European Union is never created. Europe remains predominately white with very little outside immigration.
Immigration? Sources of cheap labor and the leaders hope that young immigrants can be swayed into supporting/fighting for their "adopted" European country so IMO large scale immigration would have happened.
A mild form of the same inconsideration and selfishness which allowed hitler and all the power crazy tyrants to take countries over and begin/perpetuate atrocities on human beings.
Immigration? Sources of cheap labor and the leaders hope that young immigrants can be swayed into supporting/fighting for their "adopted" European country so IMO large scale immigration would have happened.
A mild form of the same inconsideration and selfishness which allowed hitler and all the power crazy tyrants to take countries over and begin/perpetuate atrocities on human beings.
Top paragraph is American mentality. Europe is socialist, stuff like cheap labor and trickle down economics don't apply there. Also the concept of native people would discourage any Non-European immigration. Without the need to rebuild from War, there is no need for immigration.
While Hitler's end result can be questioned....he rebuilt Germany. Today Germany is the economic capital of the European Union. Did Hitler's master scheme of German controlled Europe come true?
Top paragraph is American mentality. Europe is socialist, stuff like cheap labor and trickle down economics don't apply there. Also the concept of native people would discourage any Non-European immigration. Without the need to rebuild from War, there is no need for immigration.
While Hitler's end result can be questioned....he rebuilt Germany. Today Germany is the economic capital of the European Union. Did Hitler's master scheme of German controlled Europe come true?
Europe is more socialist today but I was referring more to the later 40's and 50's re the start of immigration from places like Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa, Jamaica, China, Korea, Phillipines, Iraq, Iran, Egypt.
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