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This is in effect, my opinion. Billions have been spent all over the world for decades trying to stop people doing something they want to do. Authorities have tried locking folks up in jail, even executing drug runners and dealers in certain countries. Nothing works..... there is too much money to be made.
If we carry on down this road, we will continue to waste taxpayers money in vast amounts. It really is time to stop, it's futile.
You could apply that same argument and substitute committing murder for using drugs. Or rape and robbery. Billions upon billions have been spent on law enforcement against these crimes, every society in history has punished them harshly, and still they are being committed at high levels. It's futile.
Fact is, nearly every law is trying to stop people from doing what they selfishly want to do. If nobody wanted to do it, there wouldn't need to be a law against it. And no matter how tough the laws are, people will violate them because they don't think they will be caught, or they just can't help themself.
Here's my guide to doing drugs: if they improve your sober life or you take them to return you to normality or sobriety, you are fine. If you take them to escape sober living and your life around you, your in trouble, if this is done routinely.
You could apply that same argument and substitute committing murder for using drugs. Or rape and robbery. Billions upon billions have been spent on law enforcement against these crimes, every society in history has punished them harshly, and still they are being committed at high levels. It's futile.
In my opinion, that is a ridiculous argument. You are comparing folks hurting, or killing others, to harming themselves using hard drugs. The harm to others caused by hard drug use, is desperate addicts trying to raise funds.
So your answer is to keep going down the same road as now? There are over 2 million people in US jails. Approximately 500,000 for various drug offences. Those 'for profits' jails need filling huh?
In my opinion, that is a ridiculous argument. You are comparing folks hurting, or killing others, to harming themselves using hard drugs. The harm to others caused by hard drug use, is desperate addicts trying to raise funds.
So your answer is to keep going down the same road as now? There are over 2 million people in US jails. Approximately 500,000 for various drug offences. Those 'for profits' jails need filling huh?
The comparison is about principles and concepts, that the essence of all laws is to restrain the desires of the individual for the welfare of society, and that enforcement is eternal for as long as human nature is what it is. So basing your argument for legalizing on people "doing what they want to do" is ridiculous. Come up with a better alternative.
The harm by drug addiction is far beyond addicts committing crimes to pay for it. It also includes spouses and dependent children. Over 50% of all drug rehab is court ordered, over 70% for heroin. Take away criminal punishment and millions won't get the treatment they need.
The comparison is about principles and concepts, that the essence of all laws is to restrain the desires of the individual for the welfare of society, and that enforcement is eternal for as long as human nature is what it is. So basing your argument for legalizing on people "doing what they want to do" is ridiculous. Come up with a better alternative.
The harm by drug addiction is far beyond addicts committing crimes to pay for it. It also includes spouses and dependent children. Over 50% of all drug rehab is court ordered, over 70% for heroin. Take away criminal punishment and millions won't get the treatment they need.
So your answer is just keep flogging the dead horse, at more, and more cost to the taxpayer? How are we to stop millions of people all over the world using illegal drugs?
"the question, however, is whether personal USE alone should be a crime. " - It's a crime if government says it's a crime. Should be does not matter...
"talking about hard drugs, or including marijuana in this assumption" - Take your pick...abuse drugs, i.e. mj, meth, alcohol, oxy, etc...you usually end up dead, jail or on your way to one of the two.
"So why isn't alcohol illegal anymore? How about cigarettes, certain pharmaceuticals, junk food," People that make laws say so...but now we see transfats are illegal....so that pretty much makes a reasonable person wonder how can MJ be made legal?
"Nothing. Let them be addicts, and eventually they will either kill themselves, learn to be a functioning addict, or quit on their own. " - If it were that simple, but how do addicts get their drugs? stealing, dealing? ...should society have the right to say "hey, we have a limit to what people can do in this society and if you want to self destruct you need to get treatment and get straight or you will be locked up to protect the greater good...i.e. the majority of society that is not addicted to drugs...
This push or rush to make MJ legal is a bit funny considering that transfats are illegal...smoking is banned nearly everywhere and in some cases your own home....but all of a sudden..MJ is harmless....live and let live....yeah..right...
So your answer is just keep flogging the dead horse, at more, and more cost to the taxpayer? How are we to stop millions of people all over the world using illegal drugs?
The Chinese back in the mid to late 1800's were faced with a huge drug abuse problem..the guy hired to fix it...said "get straight or we will kill you"...it worked...
Then again, after the Communists took over China in 1949 eliminated all or pretty much all drug abuse...forced rehab or a bullet....it worked...
Now do we shoot drug addicts?..nope...but I'm in favor of forced rehab....get straight or face a life picking corn in the hot sun....
The Chinese back in the mid to late 1800's were faced with a huge drug abuse problem..the guy hired to fix it...said "get straight or we will kill you"...it worked...
Then again, after the Communists took over China in 1949 eliminated all or pretty much all drug abuse...forced rehab or a bullet....it worked...
Now do we shoot drug addicts?..nope...but I'm in favor of forced rehab....get straight or face a life picking corn in the hot sun....
I'm in favour of killing those, who would make people do forced labour to make their perfect society.
Anyone who wants me to pick corn, for smoking a joint, better be prepared to die for their belief.
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