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Haha, I'm not hopeless tommy but thanks for the laugh. What am is empathetic. Something more people should learn how to be. I get that things happen in life. Most people do because, well, it's called life. Things don't go according to plan usually.
I agree. Some people would rather put others down. It doesnt matter what circumstances the OP or others may be in, according to some it is their fault!! Those people need a serious reality check. Stuff happens, often through no fault of our own. I applaud the OP for her persistence. Ignore the idiots who try to put you down.
Why do some people take every opportunity to verbally attack people on assistance? I am constantly reading posts on forums and social sites that indicate that anyone one welfare or food stamps is a greedy, lazy freeloader.
That is not the case. As a single mom of two children, we are on welfare. I work 40-50 hours a week in addition to maintaining a household and raising children.
I know way more people that work full time and get assistance, then I know that do not work and get assistance. Help me understand.
I rarely see the "anyone who gets assistance" type posts and as such that's just hyperbole or the odd extremist it's not even remotely a mainstream view.
Actually this thread isn't much better as it essentially does the same by trying to lump together people with criticisms about various social programs with extremists and paint them all as heartless jerks that dont have a clue.
The truth is that the programs meet a vital social need but also have a component of abuse to them.
You really need to learn how to read snopes (and understand what snopes does).
Sharon Jasper is a real person who has liven in public housing for almost her entire life.
Sharon Jasper used the quote I put up in the newspaper article referring to the apartment she'd been moved to which was in the photo.
The 'satire' was the piece that snopes listed at the top of that link that went around in a email and was posted on forums. It has a bunch of added quotes and information that were not from the original newspaper story and were either lifted from other interviews she did or made up entirely.
It's why snopes referred to it as "Multiple" and not false.
What do you say to the people who had a good paying job, and had a lot of kids only to find out that their job was shipped overseas and now they find themselves jobless or have to take a minimum wage job that doesn't pay for the kids they do have?
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You start looking for another good paying job, and if push comes to shove you either move to a new location for it or train for a different one.
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I rarely see the "anyone who gets assistance" type posts and as such that's just hyperbole or the odd extremist it's not even remotely a mainstream view.
Actually this thread isn't much better as it essentially does the same by trying to lump together people with criticisms about various social programs with extremists and paint them all as heartless jerks that dont have a clue.
The truth is that the programs meet a vital social need but also have a component of abuse to them.
Why do some people take every opportunity to verbally attack people on assistance? I am constantly reading posts on forums and social sites that indicate that anyone one welfare or food stamps is a greedy, lazy freeloader.
That is not the case. As a single mom of two children, we are on welfare. I work 40-50 hours a week in addition to maintaining a household and raising children.
I know way more people that work full time and get assistance, then I know that do not work and get assistance. Help me understand.
They don't mean ALL people on welfare (usually). They mean folks that intentionally abuse the system and pretty much label social programs a disgrace across the board. I don't think there are many that don't fell some sort of compassion for the "working" poor. They do.
But, those SOB, money-sucking parasites that are more than healthy enough for a job, refusing to find a job or ANY meaningful employment that set people off and thus, the disdain.
We know, according to the government - SNAP Annual Summary, that 47 million people participate in SNAP.
Let's say that 1 in 5 of those are adults. That puts us at around 10 million.
So, that basically translates to 530,000 SNAP recipients are prevalent drug users (and that doesn't count marijuana). Read the article. This isn't one time use drug users or marijuana smokers, this number is for the people who use hard drugs multiple times.
Do you really believe that over half a million people using illicit drugs while receiving tax payer money isn't an issue?
If we counted the people who used a drug, including marijuana, once year, that number jumps to over two and a half million.
I'll let 2 million who use only once or so or hit the bong, but the half a million using hard drugs throughout the year is a different matter.
I never accused you of anything - I was just citing a common misconception and it happened to be in reply to suggests to drug test those on SNAP. As for saving money, we need to look at the numbers:
"From July through October in Florida — the four months when testing took place before Judge Scriven’s order — 2.6 percent of the state’s cash assistance applicants failed the drug test, or 108 of 4,086, according to the figures from the state obtained by the group. The most common reason was marijuana use. An additional 40 people canceled the tests without taking them.
Because the Florida law requires that applicants who pass the test be reimbursed for the cost, an average of $30, the cost to the state was $118,140. This is more than would have been paid out in benefits to the people who failed the test, Mr. Newton said.
As a result, the testing cost the government an extra $45,780, he said."
So, if this is really about saving money the drug tests for those on welfare aren't worth it.
But it was never about that. Florida is a red state with serious far-right wing issues, so this sudden urge to drug test the poor is about "those people" and making sure the poor "know their place." Finally, in Florida's case, it was also about the governor's company making money off the drug tests... Oh, I mean "the governor's wife's company" because there's no conflict of interest there... right...
You start looking for another good paying job, and if push comes to shove you either move to a new location for it or train for a different one.
It is not that easy. I know there are many people out there who are trying to do the best they can when the odds are against them. And having people call them lazy or any other name when they are down on their luck, just adds to their burdens.
To all of you who think that the majority of people who receive assistance are freeloaders, I just hope that you never find yourself in that situation.
Family sizeMonthly amount
of income allowed
1 $1,580
2 $2,133
3 $2,686
4 $3,239
5 $3,791
For each additional person add:$553
Wow, I could get food stamps in Texas?? I wonder how much they get in food stamps for that amount of income. Here it would be about $16 mo.. My mom gets about $650 a mo. in SS and about $70 in food stamps. Before I went to work for Walmart I was on food stamps for a few months. Because I was starting out at a low wage they said I could still have $16 mo.. I said, "No thanks. I can take care of it now".
Lets all keep in mind here that jobs continue to move to china, and or mexico. People being lazy isn't always the case. Turn off the tv because it is telling you lies.
Per former ca governor -- over 50% of ebt cards are used at casinos
what does this tell you?
It says they are stupid about how they handle their cash benefits. They can't use a food EBT card for anything BUT food, and not even all foods. If they also get cash benefits there are no 'rules' as to what they can spend it on. I haven't seen anyone load up on beer, cigs, wine or whatever. I suppose if I worked in a casino environment I might see it misused...and be disgusted. I see very few cards with actual cash benefits and the ones that do have them don't have that much. The largest I've seen was around $500 but they could have already used some of it. Not my business...
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