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Both are saying: "I am paying you back for what you did to me". Both are saying: "you are getting what you deserve for doing what you did".
So what is the difference?
And why is revenge considered a negative thing, but justice positive even though the action is pretty much the same? Or is it? Maybe I am not thinking of something?
Revenge: inflict hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong done to (someone else)
Justice: fair behavior or treatment.
So their definitions are not the same. Revenge is " You hit me, im going to hit you back" Justice is " You killed that woman so you will go to jail for life"
Revenge: inflict hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong done to (someone else)
Justice: fair behavior or treatment.
So their definitions are not the same. Revenge is " You hit me, im going to hit you back" Justice is " You killed that woman so you will go to jail for life"
In other words, revenge is when you personally pay back for the wrong done to you personally.
Justice is when others pay back to that person for doing something wrong to you.
So I guess it's just related to the laws of our society. Our society/laws don't want people to take the matters into their own hands, so therefore the word "revenge" has stigma associated with it. Maybe people believe that it's better when a group decides whether this person is guilty or not. Because when it's one on one, the emotions may make the person judge falsely. So in order to prevent this, it was decided that justice was good (others pay back on your behalf) and revenge was bad (you pay back on your own behalf).
Revenge is based on emotion, and can be out of proportion to the damage/pain inflicted. Revenge/vengeance actions are generally performed by people who are somehow emotionally invested in the outcome.
Justice is rules-based, and conducted by an (at least nominally) impartial party. One not emotionally involved in the crime.
So killing someone because they murdered your spouse is revenge. The state executing that person because they murdered your spouse is considered justice. I don't believe in the death penalty, personally, but that's the analogy.
So I guess it's similar to the principle of killing a person. Killing is good as long as it's done by a group (aka: war or jail executions). But when it's done by one person, it's called "murder" and it becomes a bad thing.
So I guess it's similar to the principle of killing a person. Killing is good as long as it's done by a group (aka: war or jail executions). But when it's done by one person, it's called "murder" and it becomes a bad thing.
Not exactly. A group of vigilantes can kill and it would be revenge murder. If the state kills via execution, it is done via a specified process, aka, not murder.
When someone is punished, whether by the legal system or by a vigilante, and we think the punishment is fair, we call it justice. If we think the punishment was excessive and vindictive, we call it vengeance. It's similar to the difference between terrorism and freedom-fighting--when someone does political violence we don't approve of, it's terrorism, whereas if we do approve of it, it's freedom-fighting.
Not exactly. A group of vigilantes can kill and it would be revenge murder. If the state kills via execution, it is done via a specified process, aka, not murder.
Yes.
It should be a 'group' designated by the law (or by the orders of society). Not just any group.
Sometimes revenge can be justice (just works out that way sometimes), but justice should never be revenge.
So I think it means that when a person reacts emotionally, sometimes he is not doing the right thing, but simply something that makes him happy. So in this case, it's not fair (therefore it's revenge which is not justice in a moral sense). But if the person pays back fairly, then it's revenge in a sense of justice (but it has to be called revenge since it was not done by a designated group)
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