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A lot of the issue here is a lack of personal responsibility so some planning ahead of time is necessary. It's too bad that so many things can be done without a birth certificate the way it used to be because people would have one when they really need it or have some alternative that would be acceptable. Here is a state by state listing of requirements for getting a state issued ID card: Applying for a New DMV Identification Card at DMV.org: The DMV Made Simple
I remember going into vote not that long ago and all they did was ask our name and, no, these were not people that knew us. The county clerk said that they never removed names once registered in KS anyway at that time. She said her grandparents were still listed even though they had been dead for years. This was less than 10 years ago. I think they may have since cleaned up those records, hopefully. Now, we must show a photo ID. Our son, an adult with developmental disabilities has to have a state issued ID in order to use any Medicaid services.
I fully support requiring a photo ID, either DL or state ID, current one. Many people relocate and I have personally known people who voted in more than one state at the same time. Voting is a right with responsibilities attached. Most rights are like that.
I fully support requiring a photo ID, either DL or state ID, current one. Many people relocate and I have personally known people who voted in more than one state at the same time. Voting is a right with responsibilities attached. Most rights are like that.
The last time I moved, I could have voted by absentee ballot in my home state, and I could have registered in my new state and voted here, no problem.
I probably could have secured another absentee ballot and voted twice again two years later.
I did not, but there was nothing to stop me but my own integrity.
Some states will drop you from the rolls if you skip a Presidential election or two, but others I think just leave people on the rolls indefinitely.
Naturally, the dropping of people from voter registrations due to non-voting has been protested...
No, it does not. Did you just not read what I post? The Photo ID only proves identity because of the documents required to obtain it. That's the whole point. Those same documents go into voter registration. If you are already registered, why is a photo required?
How do they know you are who you say you are that when you show up at the polls?
I support showing ID to vote. I don't know how it's done out side of NYC, but here it's almost like an honor system. Go in tell your name sign the sheet. My signature from when U registered t vote when I was 18yo is nothing like the way it is now 20 years later. Yet I have never been called out on it.
Therefore, there is no widespread or significant voter fraud in America, since no statistics indicate that.
How would you compile any reliable data without identifying the voter? This is like saying no one went through a stop sign if no accident occurred. If we wanted to know how many people are going through the stop sign you can only do that by identifying them.
Who doesn't have ID or can't get one? it doesn't make sense to me,
I would think the fraudulent act of someone else using your vote is worse.
I don't understand how they don't ask for ID, do you just show up and tell them a name and they let you vote? Do you need a voting card, which can be given to you by a friend or neighbor or stolen out of you mail box and used.
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Plenty of people don't have what would be considered valid government ID. Heck, my own state-issued ID expires next month. I'll get around to renewing at some point, but that's a luxury plenty of people don't have. You know, people who can't take off work in the middle of the day to go to the MVA or don't have access to transportation to get there (elderly, poor, etc.) or don't have access to the records necessary to receive a government-issued ID or simply don't realize their ID is expired, etc. Why would someone think it's a good idea to put up roadblocks when it comes to being able to vote? No one's going to steal your name/address/DOB just to vote illegally. It's a solution in search of a problem.
How would you compile any reliable data without identifying the voter? This is like saying no one went through a stop sign if no accident occurred. If we wanted to know how many people are going through the stop sign you can only do that by identifying them.
That's an absurd analogy. If someone goes and votes under my name, then I go and try to vote, obviously we know voter fraud occurred. The notion someone of sound mind is going to commit a felony to try and cast a vote is laughable. And if someone were that nuts then having to creating a fake ID isn't going to be that big of a speed bump, anyways, since they'll already have to know all the info associated with it (name, address, DOB).
Approximately 24 million—one of every eight—voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate.
More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.
These are not all fraudulent registrations and I think it's very safe to assume the majority are not fraudulent. This does highlight the potential for fraud. There was a TV station in Florida that in one county with about 5% of the population found more than 100 fraudulent registrations simply by comparing voter rolls to jury questionnaire forms. Many of them voted.
Even if were a mere 25 that voted and that held true for the other 95% of the population you have enough votes to swing the 2000 presidential election.
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The notion someone of sound mind is going to commit a felony to try and cast a vote is laughable.
Yet people have been caught doing it, for one thing it's so hard to get caught since we aren't indetifying voters they would certainly be emboldened.
But she feels well enough to go and vote on election day?
Call and speak to a supervisor there and see if they will make an exception to give you an appointment so you don't have to wait so long at the DMV. Ask the director of the assisted living facility if there are any other avenues you can pursue to get her an ID.
They take them on the handicapped bus the facility has, or they do absentee for them. It's not just getting in the car, going to DMV involves sitting there and sitting there, and finding her "10 points of i.d." or whatever it is when she has nothing in her name anymore...it just feels overwhelming to her and she'd rather not vote than go through it. I did ask them when she first moved in, as an ALF I worked in before somehow arranged for the county to come in and do i.d.'s for the residents there, but at my mom's place they did not do this.
The minimum voting age should be raised to 30. People under 30 can still vote, but they would have to pass
some sort of competency test for their vote to count. Voting should be privilege, not a right.
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