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Old 06-28-2015, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Was watching a vice interview from the producer of a new documentary on netflix called "hot girls Wanted" It was about the armature porn industry. She brings to light some of the things that go on in today's porn industry. It talks about how the porn industry has become more mainstream not considered taboo. It seems as long as the girls are 18 or older anything goes as long as they get paid. I watch porn now and then but seems like porn has gotten out of hand. I'm not sure if city-data allows this kind of discussion in detail but there has to be a line somewhere on the kind of stuff produced. Some of the things they are doing should not be legal.

Vice interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLYszpvyED4

 
Old 06-29-2015, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Atlantis
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No.

Keep it unregulated.

Being able to watch hot women do things for money that most non-porn women don't do with their boyfriends or husbands is important.

O n some level, I think it sets a standard or level that all women should aspire to in their relationships.
 
Old 06-29-2015, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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So watching a girl gag while tears roll down her face is something woman should aspire to in their relationships? This is one of the things they talk about in that interview. I know what kind of videos they are talking about those videos and others which are even worse then those should be banned. Were not talking about normal porn videos here.
 
Old 06-29-2015, 01:01 AM
 
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Was watching a vice interview from the producer of a new documentary on netflix called "hot girls Wanted" It was about the armature porn industry. She brings to light some of the things that go on in today's porn industry. It talks about how the porn industry has become more mainstream not considered taboo. It seems as long as the girls are 18 or older anything goes as long as they get paid. I watch porn now and then but seems like porn has gotten out of hand. I'm not sure if city-data allows this kind of discussion in detail but there has to be a line somewhere on the kind of stuff produced. Some of the things they are doing should not be legal.

Vice interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLYszpvyED4
Not that I'm opposed to what she's saying, but even if there were laws prohibiting certain behaviors in the porn industry, like most laws in the U.S., there are loopholes, and the laws mainly benefit to serve the rich, not the poor.

If you look at the general workplace sexual harassment and harassment laws, it's still too loosely defined, and people still get away with criminal behavior. There are cases where multiple workers have been sexually harassed, but nothing ever gets done to legally address the issue despite having anti-sexual harassment laws, or even age discrimination laws. Look at Wallstreet and the banking industry.

The entire system needs to change for anything to work properly in this broken down government.
 
Old 06-29-2015, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Well, I'll admit that doing kinky things with an armature is a new twist on things (all puns intended), and I'm not quite sure of of whether or not I would have any interest in seeing that.............

.........but really, that has been a function of art through the centuries. Expanding people's minds by doing something outrageous at the time. Manet's "Olympia" caused quite a riot when it came out. It's a nude painting that presented the world at the time a view that in reality, only a select few, ie the woman's gentleman caller, her lover, would see.

The painting is sort of like the difference between Playboy and Penthouse photography. With Playboy, it is exhibition....the model knows "you are there" and is playing for the viewer. With Penthouse, it is voyeurism for the viewer is spying on her private world and her poses say that she is unaware of the eyes.

Hence, with these simple examples, it can be shown that art is far too complex to lock it up, to say what can and cannot be displayed just because some might say on a glance, "I'm offended".
 
Old 06-29-2015, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Those who decide to participate in pornography are consenting adults who choose the lifestyle. I agree that pornography dehumanizes women into becoming sexual objects - things, commodities. Women in pornographic movies are often raped and forced to act in degrading ways. And viewers of these films come to believe that these women enjoy these acts, leading men into believing that this is the way all women like to be treated.
I don't think its possible to ban porn at all, and how? With the advent of self-upload sites like porntube, youporn, pornhub etc., people are producing their own porn.
Morality cannot be controlled by laws. People will make choices regardless of what the law states, and banning porn would make things worse. Just telling someone that they should not do something makes it more desirable.
 
Old 06-29-2015, 03:58 AM
 
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Those who decide to participate in pornography are consenting adults who choose the lifestyle. I agree that pornography dehumanizes women into becoming sexual objects - things, commodities. Women in pornographic movies are often raped and forced to act in degrading ways. And viewers of these films come to believe that these women enjoy these acts, leading men into believing that this is the way all women like to be treated.
I don't think its possible to ban porn at all, and how? With the advent of self-upload sites like porntube, youporn, pornhub etc., people are producing their own porn.
Morality cannot be controlled by laws. People will make choices regardless of what the law states, and banning porn would make things worse. Just telling someone that they should not do something makes it more desirable.
Uhh..Women in pornographic movies aren't "forced" to do anything. They are getting paid good money to do an act that they are fully aware of and do it anyway. I wonder if actual porn actress' would agree with your statement "Women in pornographic movies are often raped and forced to act in degrading ways. And viewers of these films come to believe that these women enjoy these acts, leading men into believing that this is the way all women like to be treated"?

You could say the same about strippers, but let's be honest here, can you IMAGINE how many peeved off women there would be if we did legislate porn and stripping, shutting them all down and making it illegal? I highly doubt that women would care that it was done as a way to "help women". Hell, even in a female-dominated society I'd bet my savings we'd still have porn/stripping etc.

If YOU find it objectionable, fine, but don't make it out like any man/woman that gets involved or watches it is going to turn out badly. How do you feel about women that watch porn, not for/with their man but just on their own? Are they dehumanizing themselves? Give me a freakin' break!
 
Old 06-29-2015, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No, leave me....I mean them alone........
 
Old 06-29-2015, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So watching a girl gag while tears roll down her face is something woman should aspire to in their relationships? This is one of the things they talk about in that interview. I know what kind of videos they are talking about those videos and others which are even worse then those should be banned. Were not talking about normal porn videos here.
Sounds to me like a "deep throat" video. This is a common fantasy for men since most (peoples) gag reflex makes this a pretty rare "talent." Its a common reaction to tear up when your gag reflex is activated. In most of these videos youll see the women crying and mascara running, its not from unhappiness....I could point you towards several friends of ours that brag about being able to do this....

And now that Ive divulged way more knowledge about these things than most people would admit........lol
 
Old 06-29-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Sounds to me like a "deep throat" video. This is a common fantasy for men since most (peoples) gag reflex makes this a pretty rare "talent." Its a common reaction to tear up when your gag reflex is activated. In most of these videos youll see the women crying and mascara running, its not from unhappiness....I could point you towards several friends of ours that brag about being able to do this....

And now that Ive divulged way more knowledge about these things than most people would admit........lol
HA! You sound like the conversation I had with my brother once. "It's interesting, if not frightening the amount of information we both know about this subject......from different sides of the coin."

Long story short, don't be ashamed of what you know just because some people might assume you come by such knowledge by "the wrong way".

These days, I'm not sure how much of what is shown on the screen is real and how much is produced by "movie magic" or other means of presentation so the "story" shown is not what really happened. IE, if I gave an example direct to the subject, I'd probably get an infraction, so let me put it in very general terms.

We see the actress perform a certain grueling act. What we don't know because it wasn't shown was what preparation she had to do before that shoot nor how she had to adjust her life for the days after that shoot.

In the "old days", a lot of the action on the screen was brought about by film loops produced in editing. Further, one of the little tricks I noticed in a flick from Ed Meese (Reagan's AG) era was that at times, the cast were on the set without shoes despite that for the story, shoes would have been proper. Between the fact that no clothed shot was below the knees and that they got out of their clothes far too easy had they been wearing shoes, it is the only explanation.

So in some ways, it's like any other movie in that one has a story to tell and then one has to figure out how to film it.
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