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Old 11-23-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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you would have to have a sliding scale for what "type" of abortion the woman has. since now that it is illegal she has more choice to "where and who" does her procedure. what of the woman that has the father of her child beat her in the abdomen hoping to miscarry? does her painful suffering less her prison term or lighten it? what of the woman using a coat hanger?

yes lets punish them.
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Enforced birth control that is accessible and free.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Before going to far with this....
How are people going to determine whether it was an abortion or a miscarriage?
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Castration for the father. No more unwanted pregnancies for him!
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This would be an interesting twist. Would the stipulations of the procedure change? Would a doctor have to submit documents proving an accurate diagnosis of a miscarriage? Would this now require a second opinion, a certain number of scans and a waiting period to verify that fetal development has stopped and that her body is not able to flush it out naturally?
It's not that interesting a twist. By the time you're doing a D&C, you have confirmed via ultrasound that there is no live pregnancy. Usually, it's two ultrasounds and an obviously declining hcg.

I don't see how it be any different.
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's not that interesting a twist. By the time you're doing a D&C, you have confirmed via ultrasound that there is no live pregnancy. Usually, it's two ultrasounds and an obviously declining hcg.

I don't see how it be any different.
I understand how they determine if the fetus is no longer viable, what I was saying is will doctor's be required to take extra steps to document that the procedure occurred after loss of the fetus to prevent them preforming abortions, but just labeling them as D&C's? Will all these D&C's need to be reviewed to make sure they are legit?
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Castration for the father. No more unwanted pregnancies for him!
Typical,
it's always the man's fault
as if women don't use s... to get the man that they want
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I understand how they determine if the fetus is no longer viable, what I was saying is will doctor's be required to take extra steps to document that the procedure occurred after loss of the fetus to prevent them preforming abortions, but just labeling them as D&C's? Will all these D&C's need to be reviewed to make sure they are legit?
The way it's set up, it will already be documented that they're doing it for an incomplete or missed abortion (technical term for when your body is trying to miscarry but there are still pieces left after the baby is dead).

You don't just do d&cs. There is always a documented reason. In the circumstance of a pregnant woman, the d&c would be occurring BECAUSE the fetus was no longer viable. It's just a given.
And because all procedures required a reason for it being done for documentation and billing purposes ( not to mention on the consent form), there would already normally be proper documentation of the timeline.
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Well, now, wait a minute here. At what point is it "abortion"? If you think abortion is anything that kills the fertilized egg, then you'd have to punish women for using certain kinds of birth control.

And what if a woman is miscarrying? Recently there was the case of a woman who was miscarrying, was prescribed pills by her doctor to help her along, and the pharmacist wouldn't fill her prescription. If abortion were illegal, would that woman even be able to get a prescription to help her or would she be forced to go through a D&C?

http://www.mommyish.com/2015/04/13/g...rsonal-belief/

And don't forget, if tubal ligations and vasectomies are going to be punishments, what happens if the only hospital in the area is Catholic. They won't allow doctors to do tubal ligations or vasectomies because of their belief about contraception, so is the punishment going to involve forcing a hospital to go against their codes?


http://www.refinery29.com/2015/09/93...#.00uidqy:Atmd

And God forbid you're a miscarrying woman at a Catholic hospital.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1537410



If abortion is going to be illegal, then you have to develop a scenario for those situations in case they come up.

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Old 11-24-2015, 12:07 AM
 
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It seems the only solution would be stoning.
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