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OP, you know you could probably get prescribed lupron on your insurance if you were honest about your gender identity and extreme feelings towards your male hormones with a doctor. They prescribe it to to trans teenagers to block the development of the wrong secondary sexual characteristics.
Believe me--I am working on the therapy part right now.
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You do understand that your stated reason for your sex phobia, failed birth control, is highly irrational. You're entirely fixated on a 1 in 10,000 chance of having an undetected sperm count after vasectomy and on that sperm making it through a condom, while you're sleeping with all and sundry (you said you wanted an open relationship which is why a vasectomy plus tubal ligation plus condoms would not be enough for you, because for anyone else the odds of a sperm making it through cut tubes in the same week an egg makes it through cut tubes AND the next condom in the box breaks AND this woman who doesn't want kids and has had a tubL at the age of 25 decides not to take the morning after pill or have an abortion), but totally ignoring the risk of HIV or Hep B or herpes from all this profligate sex-having.
Twelve questions for you:
1. Are you aware of the law of truly large numbers? If not, then please look it up:
"The answer is roughly 1 in 1.56 trillion, and on May 23, Patricia Demauro, a New Jersey grandmother, beat those odds at Atlantic City's Borgata Hotel Casino and Spa. Demauro's 154-roll lucky streak, which lasted four hours and 18 minutes, broke the world records for the longest craps roll and the most successive dice rolls without "sevening out.""
That's right--1 in 1.56 trillion!
3. Are you aware that since all non-drastic forms of birth control can and sometimes do fail, there is absolutely no reason that 2+ non-drastic forms of birth control cannot simultaneously fail?
4. Are you aware that no matter how small the odds of an unplanned pregnancy are, the law is certainly not going to cut me any slack in regards to paying child support if an unplanned pregnancy still occurs?
5. Are you aware that my own views in regards to the risk of an unplanned pregnancy are based on the views of other pro-choicers who whine to pro-lifers about the risk of an unplanned pregnancy even though this risk can be made infinitesimal? Indeed, here is just one example of this:
I was pro-life back then, but anyway, NilaJones complained to me about the risk of an unplanned pregnancy in that thread even though this risk can be made infinitesimal.
6. Are you aware that I am certainly not going to only have sex with women who already had tubal ligations done?
7. Are you aware that condoms have a whopping 18% annual failure rate if one takes user error into account (as I myself certainly always do, considering that people, including myself, can certainly screw-up)?
8. Are you aware that doctors who perform vasectomies have such confidence in their procedures (sarcasm) that there are absolutely unwilling to pay any of their patients' child support in the event of a vasectomy failure?
9. Are you aware that I plan to get regular STD tests done and to demand that all of my future sexual partners will get regular STD tests done as well? In addition to this, are you are that I plan to demand that all of our STD test results be shared with each other? Also, are you aware that I plan to wear a condom whenever necessary in order to protect myself against STDs (after all, while condoms are certainly an extremely shiity form of birth control, they are still (as far as I know) the best tool that we have in order to protect ourselves from STDs)?
10. Are you aware that my own position on this certainly isn't gender-specific and that if, purely hypothetically, I was a fertile cis-woman, then I would never rely on any man's word in regards to adoption either?
11. Are you aware that trust certainly isn't going to pay any of my child support bills in the event of a betrayal or a change of mind later on?
12. Are you aware that we have, in the words of Laura Wish Morgan, a strict liability theory of sperm in regards to child support here in the U.S.? :
Indeed, the contents of that article were so goddammn awful that I actually wrote an e-mail to the author of this article telling her about how her article helped motivate me to seek surgical castration. Seriously.
KNOWING that men can just walk out, why don't women choose their partners more wisely?
Bingo! After all, statements such as this suggest that female-bodied people are incapable of choosing their sexual partners wisely! In turn, such a mentality appears to be misogynistic!
Yes. Have you gone completely 'round the bend, bats in your belfry, bat____ crazy, out of your freaking mind?
The entire screed appears to be nothing more than an attempt at abrogation of personal responsibility, which is already a problem of epidemic proportions.
Giving an unwanted child is not a 'gift' by any stretch of the imagination. There are already far too many of these 'gifts' running around in gangs robbing and killing people, sucking down tax dollars in prisons or on welfare.
If you cannot accept the responsibility of supporting and raising children, then keep your tallywhacker in your pants.
And, BTW, if your figure of 1 in 10,000 vasectomies failing is correct, then the odds of vasectomy failure are not "extremely high", they are 1:10,000. (And if those odds are not acceptable to you, then use a condom too, or KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS!)
Logic is most definitely NOT your forte.
Frankly, it appears that READING COMPREHENSION is most definitely NOT YOUR forte.
Also, please read about the law of truly large numbers:
I'm fascinated. Do you really think anyone could get a surgeon to do this? With the massive health implications they'd have to be shady as hell. I suspect the OP is working up the courage for a DIY job.
Actually, the only relevant question for a surgeon is this--"Are you willing to pay all of my child support payments for 18+ years in the event of a vasectomy failure? If not, then shut up, man up, and perform this surgical castration on me! Also, though, if you want, you can certainly write some angry letters to politicians and judges afterwards where you can complain about our current extremely and excessively black-and-white child support laws."
Also, as far as I know, there is even a doctor is Michigan who appears to be willing to perform informed consent surgical castrations/orchiectomies on his patients without any therapist letters.
Yeah, he's all over the net as well. It's some sort of phobia/obsession, looks like it's tied up with really messed up attitudes to women, sex, relationships, a desire to be female, but a little scared of admitting that, too. Poor guy. He'll end up in the ER with a self-administered castration at some point, and heaven help humanity when he is one poorly controlled testosterone replacement.
Actually, my own position on regards to this certainly isn't gender-specific. After all, if I was a fertile cis-woman who was into cis-men, then I would likewise never rely on any cis-man's word and promises in regards to adoption.
Also, though, by seeking surgical castration, I am simply doing what the law implicitly tells me that I must do if I never want to risk of being forced to pay child support or to abstain from penis-in-vagina sex with all fertile and potentially fertile female-bodied people for the rest of my life. Thus, rather than blaming me for my desire to get surgically castrated, I strongly suggest that you blame the law for this desire of mine.
In addition to this, though, two things:
1. I am certainly open to taking estrogen replacement therapy instead of testosterone replacement therapy after my planned surgical castration if I will still be able to get erections using my penis (like some trans-women are actually able to do) and to have penis-in-vagina sex afterwards. After all, I certainly did previously hear some good things (well, good from my own perspective) about estrogen from both trans-women and trans-man.
2. Before anyone ever accuses me again of being irrational about the risk of birth control failure, I strongly suggest that you read all of the comments for this Reddit thread of mine beforehand:
Seriously; after all, my own views on this certainly aren't unique! Heck, just take a look at what some of these people said on the comments for this Reddit thread as well as at what NilaJones said in that 2-year-old City-Data thread that I previously posted here. Indeed, as I previously said, my own views on the risk of birth control failure were certainly shaped by the views of other people on this--including by doctors who perform vasectomies and by pro-choice women who complain to pro-lifers about the risk of an unplanned pregnancy even though this risk can be made infinitesimal. Thus, I strongly encourage everyone to take an extremely large look at the big picture here and about the factors that caused me to develop these views of mine about the risk of birth control failure.
Bingo! After all, statements such as this suggest that female-bodied people are incapable of choosing their sexual partners wisely! In turn, such a mentality appears to be misogynistic!
And why aren't men choosing their partners more wisely? Why aren't you questioning the honey you pick up in a bar for a one-night stand carefully about how she feels about aborting any child that might be produced? Maybe you could even get her to sign some kind of pre-intercourse agreement, y'know like a pre-nup only before a one-nighter. My guess is that it's NOT on your mind at the time any more than it is on hers.
The fact is that you know the risks beforehand. Don't play if you're not willing to pay the possible consequences.
They make these things, they're called condoms. They're available at just about every convenience, grocery, and drug store. Even if she were taking BC pills, they can fail.
You are aware that condoms have a whopping 18% annual failure rate if one takes user error into account, correct?
Anyway, your confusion is in thinking that child support is punitive. You come to this conclusion by fixating on the man, who you see as a victim of having to participate in the financial support of the child he fathered, rather than on the needs of the child, who being helpless is dependent upon parental care until of age to care for itself through no doing of its own.
I'm a man. It is extremely easy to go through life without knocking someone up.
Child support is not about the parent - it is about the child.
They could but not many people truly like condoms and they do sometimes tear easily even if put on and used properly. I know that from personal experience.
Try using a female condom.
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