Multiple wives - refugees (rating, federal government, states, federal)
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Their sex life most certainly *is* the government's business. Polygamy is culturally destructive, and it's a big part of why the places these people come from are total hell-holes.
I didn't realize southern Utah was considered a "hell hole".
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So, the US govt is going to break up families and refuse religious freedom by not recognizing muslim plural marriage? Where is the outrage? Why is this arbitrary law supported? Who is to say how a family should choose to live?
What about the children? How can the govt take away the rights of the children to live in a home with their legally married father and mothers, just because their parents change countries?
And if muslims can have plural marriage, why not mormons? And why not everyone? My SO is about to turn 32, it's about time to trade her for a newer model, but I kinda like having her around, she does give a good foot rub and doesn't eat much, so in a poly family I could have my cake and eat it too! . It might be nice to have a couple of men around the house too, especially if they had jobs.
Look at cows and deer, they get along just fine with one bull or buck and a bunch of females.
But seriously, poly marriage is coming. Who says people can only have one spouse? Christian extremists and their ghod? This is part of the evolution of mankind.
To further cloud the issue, are humans really disposed to more than one spouse? Would not two of the spouses tend to be closer than the others? Would that leave the other spouses feeling like third wheels?
Have any of you considered the the increased probability of an inbreeding situation? With all those half brothers and half sisters living together, it's bound to happen.
But what the heck, we shouldn't be concerned about the kid's sex lives either, right liberals?
Their sex life most certainly *is* the government's business. Polygamy is culturally destructive, and it's a big part of why the places these people come from are total hell-holes.
Cultural norms come from survival instincts. If your tribe has to constantly fight other tribes and adult males are rare commodity, there will be polygamy, legal or not. Imagine big scale invasion on US soil, where most men will die in order to push enemy back. Those who [imagine] survive, will have unlimited pool of young women to make pregnant,even if they have only 1 leg, 1 hand, or 1 ball... It happened in Western history before too.
As far as government business, I believe in 1st, 4th and 10th amendments to United States Constitution which clearly said, it is definitely not government business, but you have right to believe otherwise.
If there's a merit to grant asylum, their sex life is not government business
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Originally Posted by brrabbit
As far as government business, I believe in 1st, 4th and 10th amendments to United States Constitution which clearly said, it is definitely not government business, but you have right to believe otherwise.
It most certainly is the governments business now. Remember #LoveWins? Well a better name for it should have been #PrivacyLoses because now we have given the gov the permission to define what marriage is.
It is also a matter of the Constitutionality of equal protection under the law. If it is accepted in one situation (immigrants, refugees) then it has to be accepted everywhere under U.S. Jurisdiction.
The original article was in the Wall Street Journal about three years ago and was written by a female researcher who was originally looking for data on women's rights. ( I photo copied the article and have it buried in my files)She came across this situation in her research. I can only imagine that more multiple families have been admitted.
It is not a matter of "Sex lives" it is a matter of law. When you obtain a marriage license, you have to legally assert that you are not currently married to another.
So, the US govt is going to break up families and refuse religious freedom by not recognizing muslim plural marriage? Where is the outrage? Why is this arbitrary law supported? Who is to say how a family should choose to live?
Don't be silly. This is the US. We are only to be outraged at religious freedoms pertaining to Christianity.
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Originally Posted by jamies
What about the children? How can the govt take away the rights of the children to live in a home with their legally married father and mothers, just because their parents change countries?
And if muslims can have plural marriage, why not mormons? And why not everyone? My SO is about to turn 32, it's about time to trade her for a newer model, but I kinda like having her around, she does give a good foot rub and doesn't eat much, so in a poly family I could have my cake and eat it too! . It might be nice to have a couple of men around the house too, especially if they had jobs.
Look at cows and deer, they get along just fine with one bull or buck and a bunch of females.
But seriously, poly marriage is coming. Who says people can only have one spouse? Christian extremists and their ghod? This is part of the evolution of mankind.
To further cloud the issue, are humans really disposed to more than one spouse? Would not two of the spouses tend to be closer than the others? Would that leave the other spouses feeling like third wheels?
This is a very complicated issue.
The Bible actually has many examples of plural marriages (but we are supposed to pretend that's not in there).
Honestly I don't see a problem with polygamy as long as everyone is a willing participant and is happy, who cares? I've got other things to worry about than who is married to who or whom.
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I think it might be - especially for all those young girls with little education, and being married off to old dudes.
This is a scenario where the married people aren't willing participants, they aren't happy and they are minors. None of this would be appropriate in ANY type of marriage.
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Originally Posted by NYJoe
Have any of you considered the the increased probability of an inbreeding situation? With all those half brothers and half sisters living together, it's bound to happen.
But what the heck, we shouldn't be concerned about the kid's sex lives either, right liberals?
Oh stop it with the dramatics. Half siblings grow up with each other all over the world, in various scenarios including in the US and they don't have sex with each other. If you are going to go with this argument, then we need to investigate all families with half siblings, step siblings and adopted siblings. Probably ones where cousins live in close quarters too.
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Originally Posted by justanokie
It most certainly is the governments business now. Remember #LoveWins? Well a better name for it should have been #PrivacyLoses because now we have given the gov the permission to define what marriage is.
Privacy loses? Lol. How is a gay couple getting married an invasion of your privacy? Why do you think some Holy book that not everyone believes in gets to decide for a secular nation, yet the government, the ones issuing the licenses, doesn't get a say? Silly.
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Originally Posted by parentologist
It has already been going on for a long time, polygamist Muslim families immigrating to the US, and living on welfare. Nothing new here.
You have to be a citizen to get welfare. Immigrants work, as do most Americans. I'd like you to provide some evidence for that statement.
I didn't realize southern Utah was considered a "hell hole".
You might want to try *logic*.
Really, it's better not to be a smart-ass if you don't know what you're talking about. Try listening and learning for a change.
It's an absolute fact that polygamy and cousin-marriage are reasons why Middle Eastern societies are wrecks by our standards.
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. It might be nice to have a couple of men around the house too, especially if they had jobs.
