Should doctors who perform failed vasectomies be forced to pay *all* of their patients' child support? (death, abortions)

[Ceece]

OP has a castration fantasy? That's what it sounds like and nobody will stop him from doing this to himself so I'm not seeing the great controversy.


Getting a V and using condoms seems like an easier way, and maybe some help with the OCD around this issue.

[Futurist110]

Originally Posted by Ceece

OP has a castration fantasy? That's what it sounds like and nobody will stop him from doing this to himself so I'm not seeing the great controversy.

Frankly, fantasy is certainly a very nice and pleasant way of describing it.

Getting a V and using condoms seems like an easier way, and maybe some help with the OCD around this issue.

Since a V can certainly fail and since condoms can certainly fail, though, a V and condoms can certainly simultaneously fail.

[Northeaster]

I wouldn't worry to much, your personality should be more then enough to prevent pregnancy.

[Futurist110]

Originally Posted by Northeaster

I wouldn't worry to much, your personality should be more then enough to prevent pregnancy.

Care to please elaborate on this part?

[take57]

Originally Posted by Futurist110

Since people such as WildColonialGirl accused me of being paranoid and mentally ill in regards to surgical castration, and since people such as Meyerland appear to believe that birth control is perfect and that birth control never fails other than in cases of user error or in cases of something else nullifying the effectiveness of this birth control, I am asking you this question:

Should doctors who perform failed vasectomies be forced to pay all of their patients' child support for 18+ years afterwards? After all, a doctor who did a sufficiently good job with all of his or her vasectomies would never have any of his or her vasectomies fail and would thus have absolutely nothing to worry about. Plus, forcing a doctor to pay child support for 18+ years after a failed vasectomy certainly seems to be much more humane than forcing a man to pay child support for 18+ years due to a vasectomy failure and due to a broken promise in regards to abortion and/or adoption.

Anyway, any thoughts on this?

While I don't have first hand knowledge, I'm reasonably certain prior to the procedure the patient signs wavier holding harmless physician liability with the results. Not too different than the wavier you sign when going in for major surgery not to sue the doctor for assault for performing the procedure (which strictly speaking from a legal standpoint is what the doctor is committing)

[Futurist110]

Originally Posted by take57

While I don't have first hand knowledge, I'm reasonably certain prior to the procedure the patient signs wavier holding harmless physician liability with the results. Not too different than the wavier you sign when going in for major surgery not to sue the doctor for assault for performing the procedure (which strictly speaking from a legal standpoint is what the doctor is committing)

Can't parts of such waivers theoretically get struck down by judges as being a violation of public policy, though?

[ocnjgirl]

I know short answers aren't appropriate here, but in this case it fits. No doctor gives a guarantee any procedure is 100% effective. The odds of pregnancy are low (about 20 of 10,000, more in the first few months after the procedure), but stats still tell patients upfront that it's not a guarantee.

Same thing when a woman gets her tubes tied, my brother's ex wife got pregnant after she had hers tied when her last (she thought) baby was born.

Should the hospital have to pay for your funeral if you die in surgery or your chemo doesn't shrink your tumor? No different to me. You sign everything away in the consent forms anyway, and if you won't sign them they won't do the procedure.

[PeachSalsa]

Originally Posted by Northeaster

I wouldn't worry to much, your personality should be more then enough to prevent pregnancy.

^^^best reply to this right here.

OP, have you ever had a girlfriend?

Go ahead and get yourself castrated...won't have to worry about a thing then.

Stop talking about it and just do it already. The world needs more eunuchs.....

[WeHa]

I hope you read all the documents you sign before getting your balls removed. There could be a clause about failure and liability.

[greywar]

OP, being castrated may have many side effects you have not considered. Specifically:
decreased libido
breast tissue production
hot flashes
emotional instability
night sweats
cognitive problems

etc etc etc. Read some of the posts on prostrate cancer where the people had to have this done. The results can be completely devastating.

So this is a far worse idea then people here seem to realize.