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I understand what you are saying. I have zero history of dependency on drugs, in fact, I generally resist taking any medication if I can avoid it. I was given Oxycodone (20 pills) when I had a wisdom tooth pulled. Those 20 pills lasted me 8 months. I only take 1 when the pain becomes so unbearable that I can barely walk. I think its up to me to determine whats best for my well being. I find it insulting that a doctor thinks so little of me, that, despite no evidence of any addiction, that they automatically assume I will definitely become addicted to pain meds.
I get how you feel. The dishonorable people always ruin it for everyone else.
My husband has a pain management specialist. This doctor is forced to operate under strict guidelines, due to the present Fed regulations, including giving DH a pee test ever time he visits. This is insulting, but a fact of life. Fortunately, his issues are only arthritis in a few places, and not a more serious disease.
My point is, if you do not have a long term, trusting relationship with your doctor, maybe you need to change doctors, so you are comfortable that you are being heard, at least.
I get how you feel. The dishonorable people always ruin it for everyone else.
My husband has a pain management specialist. This doctor is forced to operate under strict guidelines, due to the present Fed regulations, including giving DH a pee test ever time he visits. This is insulting, but a fact of life. Fortunately, his issues are only arthritis in a few places, and not a more serious disease.
My point is, if you do not have a long term, trusting relationship with your doctor, maybe you need to change doctors, so you are comfortable that you are being heard, at least.
Despite having diabetic neuropathy for about 10 years now, I am finally going to see a pain specialist for the first time.
You purchased the 30 pills that were prescribed to you. Why didn't you tell the Doctor , thats to much only prescribe me 5 pills. Then you wouldn't have been tempted to sell the 22 others.
Not to mention it's up to the patient how much the pharmacist fills. If the patient only wants 5 out of 30 that's all the pharmacist will fill.
I understand what you are saying. I have zero history of dependency on drugs, in fact, I generally resist taking any medication if I can avoid it. I was given Oxycodone (20 pills) when I had a wisdom tooth pulled. Those 20 pills lasted me 8 months. I only take 1 when the pain becomes so unbearable that I can barely walk. I think its up to me to determine whats best for my well being. I find it insulting that a doctor thinks so little of me, that, despite no evidence of any addiction, that they automatically assume I will definitely become addicted to pain meds.
Having run into doctors like this before I've learned to interview doctors like you would anyone else. Explain your condition, MAKE them look at your file (you'd be shocked how many don't) and let him/her know that you're tired of being in pain and remind them it shouldn't be this way. I then ask them if they've got a problem with dispensing an appropriate amount of pain control. I always tell them that if at any time I give them any doubt or me playing any kind of game we can revisit my being his/her patient.
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Originally Posted by gentlearts
I get how you feel. The dishonorable people always ruin it for everyone else.
My husband has a pain management specialist. This doctor is forced to operate under strict guidelines, due to the present Fed regulations, including giving DH a pee test ever time he visits. This is insulting, but a fact of life. Fortunately, his issues are only arthritis in a few places, and not a more serious disease.
My point is, if you do not have a long term, trusting relationship with your doctor, maybe you need to change doctors, so you are comfortable that you are being heard, at least.
There is NO federal requirement that I'm aware of that any doctor dispensing C2 narcotics has to give any kind of pee or blood tests. That's THIER requirement to lessen the odds of them being fined/busted for script selling.
Pain clinics are now watched like hawks, not because of what any patient has done but because of what the DOCTORS themselves have done by putting $$$$ over proper medicine.
They go through massive amounts of pain meds a month so of course the DEA is going to watch 'em and after so many have been busted (some multiple times) more closely than ever before.
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Despite having diabetic neuropathy for about 10 years now, I am finally going to see a pain specialist for the first time.
I choose to avoid 'em like the plague, I refuse to play THEIR GAME just to get the treatment I, as a human being deserve. There are still good and decent doctors out there, you just have to find one.
Thankfully I've been successful in several states I've lived over the last 15 years...
I suffer from Diabetic Neuropathy, very painfull! The medical establishment is more worried about me becoming addicted to Oxycodone than to allow me a smidgeon of pain relief. Its BS. Its sad that I have to live in agonizing pain with a chronic condition in order for doctors to withhold a needed medication so they can sleep better at night.
I can feel your pain………… literally!
I have advanced RA that too is associated with neuropathic pain, and some of my pain numbers off of the charts they are so high. Just getting into or out of bed is torture. Obviously getting dressed and trying to do things like household chores is often enough to cause loud involuntary utterances from me that do not even sound human
Have you ever had anything like "Gabapentin" prescribed for you? (there are a family of these meds all related to each other)
It is known to help those who suffer from neuropathic pain even though the pill was originally used for treating seizures; they just happened to find out it worked well for helping with "nerve pain" that even the strongest of opiates do not help short of a dose so strong you sleep your life away
Unfortunately, for me the side effects were too much to deal with but everyone is different
If you have not had it prescribed before now, I suggest you ask your doctor about it.
I took 400mg of gabapentin (generic for Neurontin) for years for neuropathies. Could never tell that it helped although my doctor said continue taking it. I finally stopped anyway. A longtime ago, a doctor said people are divided into two groups: those who have chronic pain and those who don't. The two groups have different philosophies toward various events. He had chronic pain and he though doctors who didn't have it didn't really understand it.
I took 400mg of gabapentin (generic for Neurontin) for years for neuropathies. Could never tell that it helped although my doctor said continue taking it. I finally stopped anyway. A longtime ago, a doctor said people are divided into two groups: those who have chronic pain and those who don't. The two groups have different philosophies toward various events. He had chronic pain and he though doctors who didn't have it didn't really understand it.
Amen on the bolded part!
Back in the Fall I built up to 1200mg per day (in about ten days) and I cannot say if it helped my upper body RA, (neck and shoulders) however, within about three weeks my right knee went out (at that time I was still kiteboarding and will be 65 next month)
I handled that with a knee brace but then a couple of weeks later my left ankle went out shortly followed by my left knee. By this time making it from my car to Walmart's entrance was taking a lot of effort and my outlook on life was going downhill rapidly.
Then I got a call on Christmas day from a friend whose son was taking "gabapentin" for RA who had severe reactions to it that took him from being a college athlete to an invalid in only a few short weeks
So I pulled the plug but found out fast you have to wean off of it rather than go cold turkey (headaches from that were incredible)
Within two weeks both my knees and ankle were back online, unfortunately my neck and shoulders have now gotten so bad I cannot even blow my nose let alone cough or sneeze without amounts of intense pain beyond anything the normal mind can fathom.
Hard to say if it helped my upper body but it certainly was a setback for my lower body
Unfortunately my health provider is the VA
Needless to say I am no longer kiteboarding…………. bummer
I have advanced RA that too is associated with neuropathic pain, and some of my pain numbers off of the charts they are so high. Just getting into or out of bed is torture. Obviously getting dressed and trying to do things like household chores is often enough to cause loud involuntary utterances from me that do not even sound human
Have you ever had anything like "Gabapentin" prescribed for you? (there are a family of these meds all related to each other)
It is known to help those who suffer from neuropathic pain even though the pill was originally used for treating seizures; they just happened to find out it worked well for helping with "nerve pain" that even the strongest of opiates do not help short of a dose so strong you sleep your life away
Unfortunately, for me the side effects were too much to deal with but everyone is different
If you have not had it prescribed before now, I suggest you ask your doctor about it.
It might just be what you have been hoping for
I hope so, pain sucks
Actually, i was just put on it by my Doctor, who doesnt believe in givimg pain pills.
So far it seems to make my feet/legs feeling far worse than they were before-and now my lungs hurt. I dont know if its related or not
You purchased the 30 pills that were prescribed to you. Why didn't you tell the Doctor , thats to much only prescribe me 5 pills. Then you wouldn't have been tempted to sell the 22 others.
First, I was not in the least tempted to sell the left-over pills. Please go back and re-read my post. I wrote that although I had no interest in that, the "door was open" to do so. That meant that a less honest person could have done it.
Second, there was no conversation between me and the doctor about pain pills. I was still groggy, and they sent me home with the bottle of pills. I assumed they knew what they were doing. Now, I know better. Also, how was I to know in advance how many pills would be required? I hadn't had any surgery in about 30 years.
Having run into doctors like this before I've learned to interview doctors like you would anyone else. Explain your condition, MAKE them look at your file (you'd be shocked how many don't) and let him/her know that you're tired of being in pain and remind them it shouldn't be this way. I then ask them if they've got a problem with dispensing an appropriate amount of pain control. I always tell them that if at any time I give them any doubt or me playing any kind of game we can revisit my being his/her patient.
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I choose to avoid 'em like the plague, I refuse to play THEIR GAME just to get the treatment I, as a human being deserve. There are still good and decent doctors out there, you just have to find one.
Thankfully I've been successful in several states I've lived over the last 15 years...
Wow. You won't go to a pain specialist because that would be playing "their game"? If you had a heart attack, would you refuse to see a cardiologist and instead insist on being treated only by your own general practitioner? It's got to be your way or the highway? I'm surprised, given your attitude, that you can find any doctor willing to have you as a patient.
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