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Old 09-18-2016, 02:46 AM
 
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Doesn't seem like "PC" has anything at all to do with this story.

I don't think that's the proper term to use to describe how you feel about this incident.

 
Old 09-18-2016, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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So wait, PC is about not making men, men? Listen men did a good job of that for years. How many "men" physically bullied other "men" who were "weak" over the years? Not everyone was able to sock a bully in the mouth and "gain their man card back." Or what about the verbal bullying that comes with saying "f**", "*****", "h***", at all? Often times people were ganged up on. I actually had this in driver's education. The instructor was on the record for having to "toughen up" well I would have seen him love to try to explain that to my father who was legitimately p***ed off by these actions. This alpha male bull**** is why we have PC in the first place because these alpha males take things to extremes.
That is how he world works.

Yes there are extremes. First in one direction then in another as you indicated above. Both camps at fault.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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It's American invention, and readily ridiculed by foreigners. Not the first time Americans made a laughing stock of themselves.
I also think that lots of PC is fueled by pranksters who just want to see how far it would go. Like the 9 (!!) years old boy who made a big deal about brownies (cookies) he got in school cafeteria. He said, it was not PC to call them brownies, and felt offended. It went out of control, police was called, and school board to settle.

Our millennials are defined by their over-sensitivity, their insistence that they are right despite the overwhelming proof that suggests they are not, their lack of placing things within context, the overreacting, the passive-aggressive positivity, and, of course, all of this exacerbated by the meds they've been fed since childhood by over-protective "helicopter" parents mapping their every move.

Right now, as thing stand - for the first time in our history, Americans have to be fearful of what they say, of what they write, and of what they think. They have to be afraid of using the wrong word, a word denounced as offensive or insensitive, or racist, sexist, or homophobic. We developed a situation where people are genuinely afraid of what words they should use.
Political correctness is born of fear. PC became deadly serious. Our Constitutional right to freedom of speech faces a serious threat. Some entitled idiots are already making changes in our history: banning books, renaming buildings and streets, removing historic markers...
spending lots of time sitting around inventing petty distinctions among races and genders, creating a monster that is already out of control. They intimidate everyone else into silence. And it doesn't matter if they're truly offended or not. They'll pervert reality to fit their agenda. Heck, these people will even get offended on behalf of others!

I do hope that Political Correctness will eventually die of its own absurdity. Hopefully soon...
So are you saying that as of now, it will be okay to use all those words that have previously been bleeped out?
 
Old 09-18-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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This is getting ridiculous.
A high school boy in Utah complained to a counselor that the cheerleaders uniforms were giving him unpure thoughts and instead of telling the boy "that is your hormones kicking in welcome to puberty etc... " the cheerleaders were told not to wear their outfits to school...........

https://www.yahoo.com/style/utah-che...190453362.html

What the Heck ? When will this nonsense end.
That is life kid a pretty girl wears a short skirt you are attracted to her get over it because that is the birds and bees. If this boy was gay and said that the tight pants the football players wear were giving him unpure thoughts would they make the players wear loose pants?

It is outrageous.



Why is America so bent on pleasing a minority in this case one kid at the expense of the majority.
Since when did the wants of one out weigh the wants of many?

Are we now living in a mixed up upside down parallel universe?

What can we do to change this PC thinking?
Well it is refreshing to have a male's idiotic "needs" respecting at the expense of girls. It's usually the reverse, and if he is white,,,,then double kudos!!
 
Old 09-18-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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This is getting ridiculous.
A high school boy in Utah complained to a counselor that the cheerleaders uniforms were giving him unpure thoughts and instead of telling the boy "that is your hormones kicking in welcome to puberty etc... " the cheerleaders were told not to wear their outfits to school...........

https://www.yahoo.com/style/utah-che...190453362.html

What the Heck ? When will this nonsense end.
That is life kid a pretty girl wears a short skirt you are attracted to her get over it because that is the birds and bees. If this boy was gay and said that the tight pants the football players wear were giving him unpure thoughts would they make the players wear loose pants?

It is outrageous.



Why is America so bent on pleasing a minority in this case one kid at the expense of the majority.
Since when did the wants of one out weigh the wants of many?

Are we now living in a mixed up upside down parallel universe?

What can we do to change this PC thinking?
Well it is refreshing to have a male's idiotic "needs" respected at the expense of girls. It's usually the reverse, and if he is white,,,,then double kudos!!
 
Old 09-18-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, VA
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
This is getting ridiculous.
A high school boy in Utah complained to a counselor that the cheerleaders uniforms were giving him unpure thoughts and instead of telling the boy "that is your hormones kicking in welcome to puberty etc... " the cheerleaders were told not to wear their outfits to school...........

https://www.yahoo.com/style/utah-che...190453362.html

What the Heck ? When will this nonsense end.
That is life kid a pretty girl wears a short skirt you are attracted to her get over it because that is the birds and bees. If this boy was gay and said that the tight pants the football players wear were giving him unpure thoughts would they make the players wear loose pants?

It is outrageous.



Why is America so bent on pleasing a minority in this case one kid at the expense of the majority.
Since when did the wants of one out weigh the wants of many?

Are we now living in a mixed up upside down parallel universe?

What can we do to change this PC thinking?
Why would it end?

Currently it is the only real way to keep people in line.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Concord NC
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The term "Politically Correct" is offensive; it implies, or allows one to infer that one in disagreement with a position is somehow "Incorrect". This is an unfair judgement and takes a red-pen to the psyche of the Differently-Opinionated. Given the ubiquity of the term, a safe-space might not be readily available to those affected by its trigger-message, leaving the victim feeling less-than, marginalized, de-legitimized and under-served. Softening the hurt by referring to the term as the "PC" word is a start, but we need more dialogue... and funding.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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We do live in an ever increasingly difficult world to comprehend and navigate through without offending anyone.
Perhaps the term politically correct was the wrong one to use to describe this situation but I do believe it was out of a concern for PC guidelines to give this confused boy a voice.

PC is just another way of saying that a situation lacks common sense. How would this situation have been handled 10 years ago? Chances are the counselor would have told the boy that if the girls upset him than don't look at the girls and try to avoid them but no today it is the girls issue and they need to cover up.

We as a nation are so busy trying to make everyone happy all the time that it is insane.

In this case one boy felt uncomfortable that the girls short skirts were giving him unclean thoughts so it was suggested to the girls to stop wearing their cheerleader outfits. The concerns of one outweigh what the majority has been doing for years.
If we mixed this scenario up a bit and the same white boy was upset that the black students were wearing their pants saggy to expose their underwear would the school had been so quick to tell the saggy bottom boys to hike up those pants? The droopy pants could be seen as a ways for the boys to express themselves blah blah blah... and the school could get into trouble for trying to enforce some type of dress code. Who knows because anything seems to go today.


Call it Political Correctness or call it a lack of Common Sense but we are all headed down a weird highway and the vehicle that we are in reacts very strangely to bumps in the road.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Economic freedom and expressionary freedom are unitary and inseparable. Just as the best economic system is something approaching laissez-faire (with a minimal and locally-policed safety net), the best system for the resolution of personal non-economic issues is "Anything goes" subject, of course, to the stipulation that a person who is offended doesn't have to participate, but cannot impose his/her will upon a group in the name of some anonymous "greater common good".

Get rid of the influence-peddling reserved for the public sector (which is little more than a legitimized excuse for the state's monopoly on the power to coerce) and the problem goes away -- save in the mindset of those who think they know what's best for all of us.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Southeast TN
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Yeah I'm not so sure the term PC is the correct term here either. How about just calling it a stupid ruling? And let's not make a blanket denouncement of PC. PC means not calling the mentally ill "retard", it means not offending others with a black jockey on your lawn or callling a Hispanic a derragatory name. While I agree this world is overly concerned with being PC let's not pretend everything PC is wrong.
Yep, this is a good, simple, understandable description of what "PC" actually is and is meant to be. Why some folks get some bent out of shape about it being no longer acceptable to use derogatory slurs in public, etc, I don't know...but it is something that I certainly hope never ends. No idea what's going on with the story with the OP , (I read the whole thing rather than rushing in to wring my hands about the horrors of "PC") but it's a confusing mishmash of claimed misunderstandings. Again nothing to do with anything being PC.
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