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Coming from the same people that constantly support invading other countries and overthrowing their government
It would appear so, but the fact that the government capitulated in 1933 to a foreign creditor makes that charge questionable.
The government has been subverted to act for the benefit of the creditors, and not for the American people, as you can readily observe.
In fact, it had been warped by the corporate and banking interests long before the bankruptcy of 1933.
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"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
- - - Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, 1935
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*NOTE : He makes the common error of confusing capitalism (private ownership) with usury (earning interest). Usurers prefer to call themselves “Capitalists” but in truth, usurers prey upon capitalism’s owners of private property. Calling a usurer a capitalist, is like calling a rapist a free-lance gynecologist.
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As the word itself implies, capitalism is merely the worship of capital, and it makes little more sense than any other religion. A notion that the high priests of capitalism ought to have any degree of unsupervised control over an actual economy is a base form of outright folly.
As the word itself implies, capitalism is merely the worship of capital, and it makes little more sense than any other religion. A notion that the high priests of capitalism ought to have any degree of unsupervised control over an actual economy is a base form of outright folly.
I disagree with that supposition.
Capitalist Principles
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CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
= = = CAPITALISM is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by INDIVIDUALS and operated for their individual profit. = = =
If you think about it, American capitalism is an endowment to be secured by government. There is no government privilege involved in absolute ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and of the gain derived. Nor can capitalism be subject to an excise tax, since no government privilege is involved.
This definition does NOT include usury (banking), gambling (underwriting), speculation, extortion, limited liability artificial persons (government privileged) or other predatory practices usually attributed to "capitalism". Coincidentally, such practices are subject to an excise tax, for they are revenue taxable privileges. (And they are the “greedy capitalists” that left wingers attack and envy.)
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" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
The right to absolutely own private property is not derived from, depend on, or subject to constitutional government, the democratic vote, or the election of any official.
Until the masses get tired of it and no longer step up to defend your private property. As long as there is a pool of ignorant desperate young people to get luered/drafted into the military your private property is ok but as soon as people wise up its game over.
That is why draft laws are so draconian because the oligarcy needs fresh young people to defend their vast estates for peanuts compensation. Your rights to priave property are only as good as the means that exist to defend it, otherwise it will be taken with bullet to your head by the country taking over if you dont play ball.
We have enjoyed an unprecidented lengthy time of peace and prosperity within the US boarders for the most part but there are alot of unhappy people and not all of them are dumb lay abouts. Buying opprotunies are slim, wages/labor has almost no value compared to capital so if you did not start off with a silver spoon then your fighting an uphill battle in capatilism. Not a good situation when a few can play with capital from the top down and everyone else no matter how hard working or smart will have a battle to get ahead.
I think if our military started strugging with an invader I dont think very many people would help fight so long as the invader was smart about how they did it and did not threaten the peasent class of americans and their families.
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics
I disagree with that supposition.
Capitalist Principles
...
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
= = = CAPITALISM is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by INDIVIDUALS and operated for their individual profit. = = =
If you think about it, American capitalism is an endowment to be secured by government. There is no government privilege involved in absolute ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and of the gain derived. Nor can capitalism be subject to an excise tax, since no government privilege is involved.
This definition does NOT include usury (banking), gambling (underwriting), speculation, extortion, limited liability artificial persons (government privileged) or other predatory practices usually attributed to "capitalism". Coincidentally, such practices are subject to an excise tax, for they are revenue taxable privileges. (And they are the “greedy capitalists” that left wingers attack and envy.)
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" Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.
The right to absolutely own private property is not derived from, depend on, or subject to constitutional government, the democratic vote, or the election of any official.
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Yep and the oligarcy is going to be crapping in their pants when another country invades and no one steps up becasue our crony capitalism is basicly worse than Russia and China so why would we defend their estates.
The only reason we see some nicer things than Russia is becuase we won the cold war and we still have not crashed into the ground yet but all one has to do is take a look at the costs of real tangible assets (choise real estate with water/mineral rights that actually have water/minerals, key properties in cities like boston proper, ocean side properties, heavy equipment, leases for significant commercial real estate or purchase prices of commercial real estate, or heck even just single family homes that are in nice areas like courdelane, boseman, southern cali, north east, etc) It will be an eye opener.
But people can still rent their crappy little slum lord appartment and drive a mid 90's car to their wage slave job and still watch some foot ball and buy some beer.
There is little distinction between us and Russia so what exactly is there to stand up for (so long as said country is not threatening the common mans family)? The USA has created a police state so effective that a civil war/revolution is totally out of the question.
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We haven't been a "free nation" since 1933, the year of capitulation to the creditor. We've been under a perpetual "temporary" State of Emergency, since that year. We've been a socialist nation, since 1935. All ten planks of the communist manifesto have been enacted or implemented, via Executive order. Congress hasn't dared to declare war since 1945, yet still authorized the destruction and death, done on orders of its true master.
"Free Americans" need government permission to wed, travel, fly, own a business, buy medical supplies, give medical treatment, enter occupations, transmit radio, build a house, or own a dog. "Free Americans" have to pay a tax to live and to die. They pay a tax on what they earn, spend, own and save. If that's "Freedom," perhaps we need a new definition for the term.
War and Emergency Powers Acts
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (as of the report 1933-1973), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."
FREEDOMS ... GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION ... HAVE BEEN ABRIDGED BY LAWS ... UNDER EMERGENCY RULE ...
Constitutional U.S.A. (1787 - 1933) R.I.P.
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But it's okay - you consented, says the law.
So sit down, shut up, pay and obey!
Too many people confuse crony capitalism with real capitalism. That's what makes them conservative. They think they want to preserve real capitalism, when what they actually try to do is preserve crony capitalism. A liberal is a person who sees the truth. That we don't have real capitalism to preserve, but only crony capitalism, oppressing us. Therefore liberals tend to be in favor of replacing crony capitalism with socialism, as the lesser of the two evils. Nobody has any good plan for bringing back real capitalism. If anyone even really wants it. If it ever really existed. There has always been military power, everywhere, and real capitalism can't exist when it's controlled by military power. It becomes crony capitalism automatically, and favors some cronies over others.
Too many people confuse crony capitalism with real capitalism. That's what makes them conservative. They think they want to preserve real capitalism, when what they actually try to do is preserve crony capitalism. A liberal is a person who sees the truth. That we don't have real capitalism to preserve, but only crony capitalism, oppressing us. Therefore liberals tend to be in favor of replacing crony capitalism with socialism, as the lesser of the two evils. Nobody has any good plan for bringing back real capitalism. If anyone even really wants it. If it ever really existed. There has always been military power, everywhere, and real capitalism can't exist when it's controlled by military power. It becomes crony capitalism automatically, and favors some cronies over others.
The saddest thing is that the military members are the very ones being oppressed by the very form of govt they are defending. It is the ultimate irony.
The proliferation of "Buzz words" like "crony capitalism" only add to the confusion.
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= = = CAPITALISM is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by INDIVIDUALS and operated for their individual profit. = = =
If you think about it, American capitalism is an endowment to be secured by government. There is no government privilege involved in absolute ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and of the gain derived. Nor can capitalism be subject to an excise tax, since no government privilege is involved.
This definition does NOT include usury (banking), gambling (underwriting), speculation, extortion, limited liability artificial persons (government privileged) or other predatory practices usually attributed to "capitalism". Coincidentally, such practices are subject to an excise tax, for they are revenue taxable privileges. (And they are the “greedy capitalists” that left wingers attack and envy.)
"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state; but, the individual's rights to live and own property are natural rights for the enjoyment of which an excise [tax] cannot be imposed."
- - - Redfield vs Fisher, 292 P. 813, at 819.
True capitalism is an endowed right, derived from the birthright to absolutely own one’s person, labor and property. False capitalism is a smokescreen to hide predators and usurers, operating by permission of the State.
The proliferation of "Buzz words" like "crony capitalism" only add to the confusion.
"The individual, unlike the corporation, cannot be taxed for the mere privilege of existing. The corporation is an artificial entity which owes its existence and charter powers to the state; but, the individual's rights to live and own property are natural rights for the enjoyment of which an excise [tax] cannot be imposed."
- - - Redfield vs Fisher, 292 P. 813, at 819.
True capitalism is an endowed right, derived from the birthright to absolutely own one’s person, labor and property. False capitalism is a smokescreen to hide predators and usurers, operating by permission of the State.
so you used "false capitalism" instead of crony capitalism but its the same thing. Do you just not like the fact that's its become a buzz word?
there really is no such thing as freedom, only voluntary slavery vs involuntary slavery.if I force you to work in the hot sun for a small pay thats considered slavery, If you want to do it because you have bills you have to pay thats considered your freedom of choice...??
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