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View Poll Results: Should experiments and medical tests be done on the most repugnant and barbaric prisoners?
Yes 27 26.47%
No 75 73.53%
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No. Serious violation of the Nuremberg Accords. All humans must provide informed consent to be used in experimentation. That includes prisoners, who - ironically - are a protected class.

As a criminologist, the efforts I have to go through just to interview prisoners is enough to make most criminological researchers blanch at the very thought of using prisoners as study subjects.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK19885/
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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As I thought. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experi...n_on_prisoners

"Germany and German-occupied territory[edit]

"The Herero and Namaqua Genocide in present-day Namibia, in Southern Africa, resulted in a large number of prisoners in concentration camps. These prisoners were used as medical test subjects by German agents.[5][6]

"During the second World War, Nazi human experimentation occurred in Germany with particular bias towards euthanasia. At the war's conclusion, 23 Nazi doctors and scientists were tried for the murder of concentration camp inmates who were used as research subjects. Of the 23 professionals tried at Nuremberg, 15 were convicted. Seven of them were condemned to death by hanging and eight received prison sentences from 10 years to life. Eight professionals were acquitted. (Mitscherlich 1992[clarification needed])

"The result of these proceedings was the Nuremberg Code. It includes the following guidelines, among others, for researchers:

o Informed consent is essential.
o Research should be based on prior animal work.
o The risks should be justified by the anticipated benefits.
o Research must be conducted by qualified scientists.
o Physical and mental suffering must be avoided.
o Research in which death or disabling injury is expected should not be conducted."

(My emphasis - More detail @ the URL)

& that's the end of it. With this legal framework in place, there won't be many professionals willing to undertake the work.
Indeed this went on during the infamous NAZI era.. But USA too has many stains on these atrocious actions. Finally, laws were put into place requiring consent ( with lawyer present) to agree to such experimentation. Even today, many treatments must go thru testings to prove worthiness so that EPA would approve such drugs or treatments. Of course there had to be guidelines and protocols attached to anyone entering such studies.

But what I think the original question was " Should some prisoner's in medical experiments" However didn't differentiate..consented to or not!

Some history on underhanded human experiments being conducted throughout history. It's rather unseemly on it's surface as a now retired medical provider..yet it is truly a part of history ..and no one should lose sight of that!

Horrific US Medical Experiments Come to Light | AHRP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethi..._United_States

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...m/naziexp.html

Human medical experimentation in the United States: The shocking true history of modern medicine and psychiatry (1833-1965) - NaturalNews.com
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Indeed this went on during the infamous NAZI era.. But USA too has many stains on these atrocious actions. Finally, laws were put into place requiring consent ( with lawyer present) to agree to such experimentation. Even today, many treatments must go thru testings to prove worthiness so that EPA would approve such drugs or treatments. Of course there had to be guidelines and protocols attached to anyone entering such studies.
Consent to participate in a scientific study does not require the presence of a lawyer.

The EPA has nothing to do with medical studies.
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