Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Only those on death row. As it is now, they sit there for years and years sucking up tax payers money on food, shelter, and useless appeals. Either carry out their sentence within ninety days of the verdict or allow this course to be their way of paying their share to remain alive. By all means, allow them the choice. Quite simple, really.
Actually, one source has argued that the death penalty actually costs more, 10x as much as keeping him locked up for life.... https://youtu.be/Kye2oX-b39E?t=10m3s
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinbro2002
Yes they should, the more painful and soul-crushing the experiments the better. We treat our criminals too well here in the USA if the punishment was more fitting with the crime then maybe this criminals would actually be deterred from leading a life of crime.
Not all criminals work that way. Studies show they were going to commit crimes regardless of the penalty. It's a whole, odd mentality thing with them.
Nothing is voluntary in prison, there is no way to guarantee that a prison who "volunteers" is truly doing so of his own free will. Just look at how "voluntary" prison labor works.
And just like execution, what happens when we find out that these prisoners were actually innocent? How do we undo the damage inflicted by experimental testing? How do you give back a kidney that was taken in exchange for avoiding solitary confinement?
I agree with other posts saying even US prisoners don't have that much "free will". It's very easy to blackmail them. Don't play ball? we'll go after your family on the outside. Rape is rampant, and even guards have to play ball (if they're not a team player, they get attacked by inmates, and find out they "conveniently do NOT have their backs" at that moment).
There are quite a few prisons that are privately run. They're in the business to ensure more people than not are incarcerated. I can see these medical tests being abused, and adding to the previous of finding more prisoners. There are already plenty, but before you know it, they want more diversity, different age groups, etc.
Last edited by ackmondual; 12-27-2016 at 12:26 PM..
I think prisoners (mind you, only the most barbaric and savage ones) should be experimentally tested instead of animals. Some inmates would like a chance to give back to a society that they have wronged. Saving a life would allow these people to die with some peace and dignity. I am not saying that this would right their wrongs, but it would be a honourable donation to a community that has already suffered.
Animals have never done anything wrong as these horrible human beings. Animals don't deserve it and death row people clearly do. Plus you'll get better results that are more accurate to the human anatomy. It would save the lives of people because there would be less chance of a medical error based on reactions.
What is your opinion?
I don't like what they do with animals either, but NO.
And don't think for a minute that there aren't prisoners who are falsely accused.
If an experiment is also open to those without involuntary internment, I could see it being offered. I would not want to see inmate only scientific studies done, as will is subversive, and there's room for bias to boot.
So if a drug company wants to see the side affects of a new allergy medication, has recruited 900 people and needs 100 more to fill up their study, I could see it being offered to prisoners, especially those there for minor offenses where handling costs would be relatively low.
If a drug company wants to see the side affects of a new allergy medication, has recruited nobody, or very few, externally and wants to have the study done on prisoners, I would not want it to be offered. The vast majority should have elected to participate in the study, for compensation, while having complete control over their own lives.
Overall, prisoners could give back more to society if they were truly places of reform and rehabilitation. In an era where we have innovated in seemingly every other area, we could likely do better here. It doesn't have the greatest ROI of places for the government to help itself, but I'm sure there's some low hanging fruit somewhere.
Anyway, I think it would be a good option for prisoners to get some compensation while doing their time, but it should be completely voluntary and with external acceptance first.
There are quite a few prisons that are privately run. They're in the business to ensure more people than not are incarcerated. I can see these medical tests being abused, and adding to the previous of finding more prisoners. There are already plenty, but before you know it, they want more diversity, different age groups, etc.
Agreed. And even when the jails and prisons themselves are not privately run, many (and likely the majority, especially of larger jails), have privately run "healthcare" mega-companies responsible for the "healthcare" inside. These companies are very poorly run, and prisoners (many who are innocent) and nurses (many who are uncredentialed or poorly credentialed) only get to care for the prisoners if the guards allow it.
Google "Corizon Healthcare lawsuits" as just one example.
Participants should not be paid to do so. In a prison population that would include not providing privileges for being in a study or denying privileges for not participating.
Yes. A prisoner in a maximum security prison or Supermax have little if no rights. Most are in for terms no less than 15 years to life. They aren't doing anything else worthwhile may as well use them to move our meaningful society along in a positive way.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Damn, dude, I thought I was cold and heartless. 
