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OP's premise illustrates quite neatly why so many who argue passionately about gun bans know absolutely nothing about guns or about the Constitution. To wit:
"what if Congress ratified the second amendment with a total gun ban for civilians."
Pardon my bluntness, but that question is utter nonsense.
OP, please do a bit of research on the US Constitution, its origins, and the amendment process. Just a little will suffice.
It will never happen. We as a country would probably lose our form of Government before a total repeal of the 2nd Amendment.
As to whether it would reduce gun Violence - just look at a place like Australia where they used to have quite liberal gun ownership laws - that is until they had a mass shooting and public agreed to make serious changes. Now they ban assault weapons and hi-cap clips and they have had few additional mass shootings.
That is a myth, Australia had about the same frequency of shootings before and after the semi auto gun ban (note that other types of violence killed more people) :
OP: '... what if Congress ratified the second amendment with a total gun ban for civilians?'
You mean 'repealed' like in Venezuela today?
In 2012 the government of Hugo Chávez banned private gun ownership as the 'official' response to gun violence. So only federal and municipal agents could legally obtain and carry firearms.
In 2015 the Venezuelan Violence Observatory, a nongovernmental group, estimated that there were 27,875 murders that year, which would make Venezuela's homicide rate one of the highest in the world, at 90 killings per 100,000 residents. The group found that the rate climbed higher in 2016, to 92 per 100,000.
A GLORIOUS PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST REPUBLIC WOULD BLOOM UPON THE ASHES OF DESTROYED ARMS!
VITAL TO DISARM
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You can never have an efficient totalitarian police state, when it has to be “benevolent” and fearful of millions of armed citizens. And you can’t disarm millions of armed citizens when they won’t tell you where the arms are. And you can’t arrest them until you criminalize their disobedience to “reasonable” gun restrictions and “common sense” registration. And you can’t tolerate their belief that they have an “endowed right” to self defense against tyranny, that supersedes your political power of the bigger gun.
• An Armed Populace Fears No Government.
• A Disarmed Populace Fears All Government.
We know a couple of folks who were major gun enthusiasts but moved to places where private ownership is extremely limited. They found it annoying at first but are happy overall with their decision to relocate. They say there's a much higher quality of life, even though they don't have their firearms.
We know a couple of folks who were major gun enthusiasts but moved to places where private ownership is extremely limited. They found it annoying at first but are happy overall with their decision to relocate. They say there's a much higher quality of life, even though they don't have their firearms.
It was a cute story but they knowingly decided to make a life change. Good for them glad it's working out.
But
Its completely irrelevant to this debate
Well, I think it shows that even avid gun enthusiasts can make the shift to a low-gun society if their overall quality of life is improved.
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