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Old 02-21-2018, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Many jobs were and are hiring to fill racial and gender diversity quotas.
So what.

The company gets to decide, within reason, what the most important qualifications are for the job.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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They're not comparable.

The NBA (which used to be for whites only) is a private sports enterprise. It actively recruits white players and is 97% owned by whites.
What is your point? Private or not, the NBA, whatever their recruitment tactics may be, can not legally exclude any person from any position within their organization based strictly on race.
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Dalhousie is a public university. I presume they are given tax-exempt status by the Canadian government. As a publicly supported institution, why not try to bring in a few minorities? As pointed out in my previous post, they are led almost 100% by white folks and that monopoly doesn't seem to be in any danger.
Legally, there's nothing wrong with 'trying to bring in a few minorities', but that isn't the extent of what they're doing. They have stated specifically that this Student Affairs position is only available to non-whites. They are excluding whites from the position. They are discriminating against white people strictly on the basis of race. How can you defend this?
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The Canadian Employment Equity Act seeks to increase the representation of 4 groups of people in the workplace: women, the disabled, Aboriginal peoples, and "visible minorities". Canadian law defines "visible minorities" are being "persons, other than aboriginal peoples, who are non-Caucasian in race or non-white in colour". Employers must develop "positive policies" for hiring (among other things) members of those groups.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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No, non-Hispanic, non-Jewish whites are still about 63% of the population but only about 25-30% admitted to ivy league, so they are severely underrepresented in colleges they founded.
Exactly. It's a travesty and miscarriage of ethics, plainly put.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:15 AM
 
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No, non-Hispanic, non-Jewish whites are still about 63% of the population but only about 25-30% admitted to ivy league, so they are severely underrepresented in colleges they founded.
White kids born in the late 90's-early 2000's founded the ivies? Did you personally establish these schools? That's the first mistake you are making here claiming ownership to these institutions simply because you are of the same race as those who did.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:18 AM
 
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Most of the time it never got to an interview stage, just the testing process. They only wanted "diversity".
How do you even know that? Perhaps others did better on the test, perhaps your resume wasn't quite as good.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:22 AM
 
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They were white, specifically of British and NE European decent. If we have historical black colleges and university this to this day admit blacks overwhelmingly, then ivy leagues and historically white colleges (almost all of colleges) should allow overrepresentation of whites instead of underrepresentation.
Your argument doesn't follow. Please explain why the mere existence of black colleges means that Ivies should be white.... Especially when there are plenty of majority white private schools. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ps-and-charts/
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:18 AM
 
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Dalhousie only seeking racially visible, Indigenous candidates for senior job - Nova Scotia - CBC News

Dalhousie University in Canada is openly stating that a vice-provost student affairs position "will be restricted to racially visible persons and Aboriginal peoples at this time".

Apparently, "Student Affairs" has become a racial matter. This is my favorite part:

"Walsh said this approach is still about hiring the most qualified people.

"From my perspective, there isn't a merit argument that runs counter to this. In fact, this actually is the way for us to develop the most meritorious faculty and staff population," she said."


In other words, it isn't possible for anyone who is white to be the most qualified person for the position. By virtue of nothing more than being white, one is automatically unqualified, no matter their skills or experience. Further, considering race above all else is the approach that will give the most meritorious faculty and staff.

So, this is where we stand in 2018. White people are no longer eligible for certain positions of authority or influence in their own country, the one they built. Does anyone else see a problem with this?
Since for years and years no people of color were allowed to apply I'm thinking "reap what you sow"
Maybe its just whites turn
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Since for years and years no people of color were allowed to apply I'm thinking "reap what you sow"
Maybe its just whites turn
It shouldn't be ANYBODY'S turn! Get your minds off of some mis-guided sense of vengeance, you will only make things worse.

Say blacks in particular get ahead by openly discriminating against whites. Say whites go, en mass, destitute and abused, perhaps even killed for their color.

What do you think will happen in the future? Blacks will be the villain. It's just going to perpetuate a vicious cycle of violence and greed and hatred. STOP NOW.

Don't believe me? African countries held European slaves long before Europe had developed. During and before Roman times. The pendulum has swung back and forth for centuries.

Stop the damned pendulum. Grow up. Get your mind off of vengeance and onto unity.
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Close to Mexico
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No, non-Hispanic, non-Jewish whites are still about 63% of the population but only about 25-30% admitted to ivy league, so they are severely underrepresented in colleges they founded.
Pretty easy to dispute. The Ivy Leagues schools are still, on average, 45-55 percent white. The largest minority grouping all of these schools are Asians.
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