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That could work. And at a secure school adults would stand at the entrance to monitor the traffic. Especially if there's a metal detector right inside the entrance.
People need some perspective. While life is valuable is it worth tying every school and business into knots over a very low number of deaths? We need reporting and care for people who need it.
I would hate to see the results of anti-gun people trying to protect this country.
If your only definition of "protect" is spraying bullets onto a field against physical threats, then perhaps not.
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If we include other ways.. they volunteer in their community, they make strides to improve laws, get projects going that benefit society, and make sure people's liberties aren't being trampled on. (Yes, there other ones besides the 2nd Amendment... free speech, right to a trial, etc.).
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Some of these folks included groups that forced the tobacco industry to acknowledge that cigarettes are a product that if used correctly, CAN kill you. Important to note that tobacco products weren't completely banned. You can still smoke them, but you need to be of age, warnings are put on them, and they stopped advertising to children. They also showed how idiotic it was for the CEO of Phillip Moores to say that due to cigarette smoking, giving birth to underweight babies was a good thing. Guns won't work against these guys. They're not a foreign threat. It's a bit amusing how people are all riled up about the likes of ISIS when there are plenty of bad things going on in US soil.
CARTER! Democrats in the 70's began closing the mental hospitals. 1976-77 to be exact. Carter gave them the go ahead. Reagan had no capacity to do anything aboiut it, one way or another. Don't believe everything you read on Yahoo, et al.
The devil is in how those laws are construed by the health facilities, the doctors and the courts.
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I don't think it should be easy to get someone committed - the rule now is you have to be a danger to yourself or others.... Reagan closed down these facilities which had become warehouses people never got out of. And he messed up by not making provisions for the community services for all the people released. REAGAN.
In former days, the clown that shot up the school the other day would have been committed (long ago) by any number of witnesses to his psychotic behavior. Seen by a psychiatrist or two, he'd a surely been locked up - probly for a long time. And yes...some schizos don't respond to antipsychotics and yes...it's a lifetime thing. Lotsa things in real life aren't pretty. That's just the way it is.
Not only Reagan, Carter or anyone at the Federal level. The process of de-institutionalization started in the late 1960's and early 1970's. De-institutionalization was a well-intentioned program. It was supposed to convert inhumane and, for the patient ineffective confinement into treatment in the community. This April 2, 1972 article, which I remembered reading, The Patients Can Walk Out At Any Time at Bronx State Mental Hospital(link) made the case for de-institutionalization. Unfortunately, few were as motivated as Israel Zwerling, and most looked at the process as a way of saving money.
Community facilities are not cheap and are often resisted on NIMBY grounds. Also the “shizos” and other mentally ill people often go off their meds.
On Facebook after the shooting in Florida, I noticed that my extreme right friends would post the "33 killed in knife attack in China" event that happened in 2014 and would always have something clever to say like "Knifes are dangerous, I think we need to get rid of all of our knifes."
This was expected but it shows a bigger issue. No matter how many people die, how many children are murdered, how many innocent concert goers are mowed down. It will always come back to the argument that people are responsible for the violence not the guns. Which is true... for the most part. The problem is the efficiency of guns versus other means.
This is why driving cars used to be a right, and is now a privilege. They realized it being the former didn't work, so they had to have regulations and licensing behind it. Makes sense... you have a 2,000 pound vehicle that you'd better be in control of. Vehicles do plenty of damage as they kill/injure people, wreck homes and businesses, etc., but at least they're being regulated much better than guns.
This is why driving cars used to be a right, and is now a privilege. They realized it being the former didn't work, so they had to have regulations and licensing behind it. Makes sense... you have a 2,000 pound vehicle that you'd better be in control of. Vehicles do plenty of damage as they kill/injure people, wreck homes and businesses, etc., but at least they're being regulated much better than guns.
And how many people are killed in car accidents every year with all those regulations?
1. we stop coddling children through life, minor teasing/bullying in the younger years prepares people for middle and high school when people are downright cruel and won't listen to parents. Kids can't even be called fat anymore.
2. weird kids need to be looked at. How many of these guys were completely normal one day and then went nuts the next? very few. Most may have been ok originally but interviews afterwards point to steady spirals into insanity.
3. Fbi needs to be purged they've proven grossly negligent at this point. The cops can be there to clean up the mess, gather evidence, etc... They either aren't capable or aren't willing to put in the work to protect people. Plenty of good cops out there but they can't be everywhere and now we have to wonder if we are getting that guy who's shaking in his boots when he responds to your emergency.
Due to the fact that all citizens owe militia duty, it may be more effective to begin firearms training in elementary school.
That should quell the "Scary Gun" fear rampant among the protesters.
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