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They don't have to come come from Mexico (I'm not talking about the guns you are, which are rarely used in mass shootings, but simple assault weapons, the kind used commonly in mass shootings). On the east coast, most of them come from gun shows in Virginia where all it takes is money and no background checks. In Chicago, they come from gun shows in Indiana, which has the same lax laws. It's probably harder to buy a gun in Mexico than it is here.
We are not talking about illegal street weapons on this thread, which is about mass shootings, most of which were accomplished with legally obtained weapons. It is not about the weapon's origin, but about their use in mass shootings, and by whom. Most people who buy weapons at gun shows (or obtain them illegally) do not commit mass shootings.
We are not talking about illegal street weapons on this thread, which is about mass shootings, most of which were accomplished with legally obtained weapons. It is not about the weapon's origin, but about their use in mass shootings, and by whom. Most people who buy weapons at gun shows (or obtain them illegally) do not commit mass shootings.
I was simply addressing the poster who claimed the guns used were being brought over from Mexico by drug lords.
I was simply addressing the poster who claimed the guns used were being brought over from Mexico by drug lords.
True, my bad. My point is that although guns are used in mass shootings, it takes a human to accomplish one. The NRA is not wrong in saying "people kill people, not guns." We need to focus on the mass shooting killers and what drives them to commit these heinous deeds.
A LEGALLY obtained full auto used in a crime is rare (big difference).Thats to be expected, as the people that go thru the hassle of getting the right licensure and permits to own a LEGAL full auto, are not likely to use them in crimes, ILLEGALLY obtained full autos is a different ball game.
There are incidents where they are used, Ive mentioned before about a couple shootings that happened in Cincinnati last year, full auto AK47s were used, (it was illegal) and gang/drug-related.
Can you link to info about those incidents, or post some details so that I can find them?
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There have also been a number of large drug busts made around here, and police put all the drugs, guns and cash they recover on a table to show the media, there were numerous machine guns involved.
Yeah, I’ve seen those photo ops where guns, cash, and drugs are spread out on a table. Machine guns? Almost never.
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Im curious though, why you would think these guys would have any problem smuggling guns into the country, when they are able to smuggle drugs in all the time?
How did you conclude that that’s my belief? Certainly not based on anything I’ve posted.
They don't have to come come from Mexico (I'm not talking about the guns you are, which are rarely used in mass shootings, but simple assault weapons, the kind used commonly in mass shootings). On the east coast, most of them come from gun shows in Virginia where all it takes is money and no background checks. In Chicago, they come from gun shows in Indiana, which has the same lax laws. It's probably harder to buy a gun in Mexico than it is here.
Stop with the disinformation. The laws governing sales at gun shows are exactly the same as they are anywhere else. There is no gun show loophole.
My statement stands correct as written. Notwithstanding the incorrect information included in your posted links, there is no state, Indiana included, where the laws governing gun sales at gun shows are less stringent than federal law. ALL federal and state gun sale laws must be followed at gun shows.
Again, stop with the disinformation. You are 100% wrong about this.
If you disagree, as I'm sure you will, please post any state or Federal gun sale law that DOESN'T have to be followed at a gun show. Good luck.
First of all, an "SKS-AK47" isn't a weapon. The stupid reporter combined two separate guns into one. An SKS is a gun. An AK47 is a gun. An "SKS-AK47" isn't a gun. The idiot reporter didn't know that, and neither did you.
The problem that many face is that "AK47" can refer to both the semi auto version, and the full auto version, and those that are ignorant about firearms easily confuse the two. Rest assured that if a full auto weapon is used in a crime, it will be clearly stated in the news reports. See the North Hollywood shootout as an example.
It's a near certainty that the referenced weapon in your link is NOT a full auto weapon. Given that "SKS" was noted, the most likely situation is that the weapon is in fact an SKS, and a reporter added a bit of sensationalism, as to the uninitiated, there is a bit of a similarity in the appearance of an SKS and an AK47.
My statement stands correct as written. Notwithstanding the incorrect information included in your posted links, there is no state, Indiana included, where the laws governing gun sales at gun shows are less stringent than federal law. ALL federal and state gun sale laws must be followed at gun shows.
Again, stop with the disinformation. You are 100% wrong about this.
If you disagree, as I'm sure you will, please post any state or Federal gun sale law that DOESN'T have to be followed at a gun show. Good luck.
Ok then they are private sales. Does it make that much difference? It certainly doesn’t to Chicagoans getting shot with Indiana guns. . Either way it is probably easier to get guns in Indiana than it is in Mexico. There’s no need to smuggle them in.
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