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Old 08-24-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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I think anyone who argues/fights for illegal immigrants (border-jumpers/criminals) is actively engaging in treason against Americans, since these people directly effect the livelihood of us Americans.


I make in the upper teens per hour as a janitor (partly by choice) and is it not a FACT that I would be making $20/hr or more if I was not directly competing with illegals (and legals) for the same "job Americans' won't do"?


Yes, I think ANYONE (liberal, "conservative", democrat or republican) who is still actively fighting for non-Americans to come into this country is committing an act of war against their own American brothers and sisters.


And I am being TOTALLY serious with the above-statements.
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Old 08-24-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I think anyone who argues/fights for illegal immigrants (border-jumpers/criminals) is actively engaging in treason against Americans, since these people directly effect the livelihood of us Americans.


I make in the upper teens per hour as a janitor (partly by choice) and is it not a FACT that I would be making $20/hr or more if I was not directly competing with illegals (and legals) for the same "job Americans' won't do"?


Yes, I think ANYONE (liberal, "conservative", democrat or republican) who is still actively fighting for non-Americans to come into this country is committing an act of war against their own American brothers and sisters.


And I am being TOTALLY serious with the above-statements.
I don't really think you understand what those people who "fight for illegals" are really fighting for. I know a few. The ones I know are not fighting to bring more illegals in. They're mostly fighting for humane treatment of human beings and a wise way of dealing with the issue WE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN OVER MULTIPLE DECADES.
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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I don't really think you understand what those people who "fight for illegals" are really fighting for. I know a few. The ones I know are not fighting to bring more illegals in. They're mostly fighting for humane treatment of human beings and a wise way of dealing with the issue WE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN OVER MULTIPLE DECADES.
These people you're referring to are the same ones who in the same sentence many times argue for open borders, so basically your statement is hogwash. Just my opinion.
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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These people you're referring to are the same ones who in the same sentence many times argue for open borders, so basically your statement is hogwash. Just my opinion.
Only people I have ever heard argue for open borders are limit libertarians. And they only support it theoretically.

The reason for legalization the present illegal aliens is simply to get rid of the huge population that prevents us from controlling US immigration. That is because there is no will or practical way to do anything else. And even if we tried some deportation scheme it would likely fail.

An attempt to control employment might yield some drop but mostly would force the illegals to the black market and cash. There also is little possibility that any laws really tightening employment will pass.
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Old 08-24-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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These people you're referring to are the same ones who in the same sentence many times argue for open borders, so basically your statement is hogwash. Just my opinion.
Thank you for sharing with us the Fox News talking points.

Who are the posters in this thread who have advocated open borders?
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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Thank you for sharing with us the Fox News talking points.

Who are the posters in this thread who have advocated open borders?
If you're against building a wall, by definition you are for open borders. Please.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If you're against building a wall, by definition you are for open borders. Please.
Well, I'm a Democrat and I am not opposed to building a wall.
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:09 AM
 
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Well, I'm a Democrat and I am not opposed to building a wall.
Assuming you pay attention to current affairs, you know you're an exception.


No need to play this game. Most liberals are vehemently against a wall of any sort. Therefore - open-borders.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:28 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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If you're against building a wall, by definition you are for open borders.
Nope. You have this wrong too.


There is very little in life that can be summed up in a FoxNews soundbite.
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Nope. You have this wrong too.


There is very little in life that can be summed up in a FoxNews soundbite.
I love how the left plays this game now.

To summarize: light is dark; right is left; up is down.

Tucker Carlson is right.
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