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Old 04-22-2020, 02:36 PM
 
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The true nature of people was clearly demonstrated when Covid 19 first appeared by buying up all the hand sanitizer, medical gloves and masks, disinfectant wipes, etc., and then selling these same items at 100 times their cost. For some reason the overwhelming greed prompted the buying of every sheet of TP. Once store manager told me she stopped one buyer with two carts loaded with TP and asked why. He told her he was going to fill his garage with TP. A few days ago I shopped at the supermarket. When I got to the register the clerk asked me if I found everything I came for. I told her, no, out of twelve items I was shopping for I found only three. She told me you have to come in at 7am when the store opens because deliveries come at night and are stocked. At 7am the store is flooded with people who are hoarding or reselling products. Some, especially here at CD, would call these people capitalist. I call them greedy scum.

Trump's gang said that the $1200 will get the people through 6 weeks to two months. Good luck with that. Farmers cannot get their products to the consumer market and commercial customers have closed their doors. As a result farmers are killing off livestock and plowing crops under. With people going broke and store shelves empting you will soon see the animal in humans.

 
Old 04-22-2020, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Thank you. You get it. What good is having everything opened if consumer confidence is destroyed and people don't trust that they are safe? Covid is a dragon of a virus.
No question about that. But what about masks? And what about people's needs? Is Santa Claus going to feed us?
 
Old 04-22-2020, 03:10 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The true nature of people was clearly demonstrated when Covid 19 first appeared by buying up all the hand sanitizer, medical gloves and masks, disinfectant wipes, etc., and then selling these same items at 100 times their cost. For some reason the overwhelming greed prompted the buying of every sheet of TP. Once store manager told me she stopped one buyer with two carts loaded with TP and asked why. He told her he was going to fill his garage with TP. A few days ago I shopped at the supermarket. When I got to the register the clerk asked me if I found everything I came for. I told her, no, out of twelve items I was shopping for I found only three. She told me you have to come in at 7am when the store opens because deliveries come at night and are stocked. At 7am the store is flooded with people who are hoarding or reselling products. Some, especially here at CD, would call these people capitalist. I call them greedy scum.
Why is the store continuing to allow that? Stores in my state are allowing only 2 of a single type of item (pack of TP, bottles of hand sanitizer, bottles of disinfectant) per customer. That's been the policy for over a month now.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 03:59 PM
 
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Have you ever played tennis? You hit the ball, if you are lucky (or skilled) you make the point and now your ball is on the other side of the court. It's your serve. How do you get your ball? Run clear across the court, around the net, get your ball (assuming you know which of the fuzzy yellow balls is yours) run back to your side of the court to the service line and serve, wash, rinse, repeat???? This would be exhausting and STUPID. Constant running back and forth to retrieve YOUR ball.
You hit the ball, your opponent hits it back. If your opponent has Wuhan virus, you shouldn't be playing with them.

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Addressing the bolded, point by point.

1) I don't think running into foxholes, lobbing grenades, dodging mortar-fire, and shooting the enemy when possible translates into any marketable skill post World Ward I and II. Those are the skills the vast majority of soldiers in those wars learned. In Viet Nam, slogging through stinky swamps and avoiding being blown up by landmines, booby traps, or being ambushed...again not particularly a useful skill in the US. These were the skills taught in wartime.
Soldiers learn a lot more than lobbing grenades. They learn discipline and self-respect. For many black men in the 1940s-50s, the U.S. Army was a pathway out of poverty, a way to learn basic literacy and arithmetic which they didn't get in school. It's still true today for some people.

For at-risk youth, for young men hanging with the wrong crowd, for aggressive men who get into too many fights, the military has always been a channel for their energy, a means of learning to control themselves, of growing up.

People come out of the military with useful skills. They may have learned mechanical repair and maintenance of heavy machinery. They may have learned how to fly.

I mean, sure, there are a bunch of guys who get through their 4 years without really gaining valuable job skills like technology or welding or truck driving. But lots of others do. To some extent, it's what you put into it.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 05:24 PM
 
Location: MD
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We are animals; to think otherwise is nothing more than arrogance and pretentiousness. Hopefully this has humbled those who think otherwise.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 05:35 PM
 
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Here's the thing.
Sitting home develops neurosis, in already very neurotic country.
How more sitting home will turn neurosis into psychosis, know only specialists but, none of them is on COVID task force. Only politicians, those "doctors" included.

Now, if you want several million crazies running amok in the country.....
 
Old 04-22-2020, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I am sympathetic to the bartenders, waitresses and barbers. The service sector has taken a severe hit. Most of my friends are still working, either telecommuting or in jobs that never required close contact in the first place.

67% of the US GDP is service jobs that don't produce much except $7 cups of coffee. This is a great time to figure out which jobs we never needed and never will. Streamlining our economy will not automatically return the US to productivity, but it's a step in the right direction.
 
Old 04-23-2020, 05:30 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I am sympathetic to the bartenders, waitresses and barbers. The service sector has taken a severe hit. Most of my friends are still working, either telecommuting or in jobs that never required close contact in the first place.

67% of the US GDP is service jobs that don't produce much except $7 cups of coffee. This is a great time to figure out which jobs we never needed and never will. Streamlining our economy will not automatically return the US to productivity, but it's a step in the right direction.
The bartenders and servers were earning their living off the economic profits created by turning perhaps $0.50 in ingredients into a "$7" cup of coffee. It kept those workers alive and employed. Are you personally going to make up these people's income? The Left (and I'll admit to being a left-winger) seems to be more concerned about plastic bags, global warming and gender fluidity than the lives of actual people.
 
Old 04-23-2020, 07:39 AM
 
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We are animals; to think otherwise is nothing more than arrogance and pretentiousness. Hopefully this has humbled those who think otherwise.

To refine this further, herd animals; the very reason we cannot be isolated for long periods.
At least not without becoming mentally ill.
 
Old 04-23-2020, 08:43 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Default Cats & Covid

This morning the CDC posted Confirmation of COVID-19 in Two Pet Cats in New York. Also, 8 big cats confirmed tested positive for coronavirus at NY zoo. Fortunately, apparently, Coronavirus can infect cats — dogs, not so much. Besides the obvious humor element, this poses a serious question. People own cats and live at with them at close quarters. People can be made to socially distance. Ever hear the expression; herding cats? You can't do it. Question is, are we just destroying employment and wasting time by socially distancing? I have always had the instinct that this is theater, not something effective or worthwhile.

And that it's a bloody waste of time. For more, see COVID-19 & Felines - Socially Distance Cats or We're Wasting a Lot More Than Time!
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