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There are news reports of several major cities having problems with large numbers of police resigning or refusing to show up for work. Will major cities in the future have serious problems staffing their police departments? What will be the result? Will more people leave these cities and then the financial problems of these cities worsen?
Personally I see more cities going the way of Detroit.
There are plenty of people qualified to fill those positions. Police are just as expendable and replaceable as any other profession, including POTUS. Academy training is what, 6 months tops?
With the current unemployment rate, I'm sure we'd have enough people to fill those positions
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One would think that much of the racist grief could be fixed by hiring black officers to patrol black neighborhoods BUT I heard some BLM fool on the radio that said Black people that become cops are not black anymore, they are blue...
Again, skirting the real issue. Much of the racist grief could be fixed by CURRENT officers learning how not to be racist and biased. OR are we saying racism is genetic and can't be fixed in humans?
You replace racist cops with black cops, the cops you replaced are still racists and more than likely own guns. That doesn't solve anything.
The real gain is when a racists ceases to be racist.
Cities with very high crime rates all have trouble finding quality officers of the law. This includes big, blue cities, unfortunately. And unfortunately the mayors don't always support their police--selling out to the democrats.
Policemen in such places deserve Battle Pay. It's the same way with their school teachers in difficult sociological circumstances.
Battle pay?
How about depressed communities that have been overlooked deserve investment and opportunity. When there is employment and opportunity for poor communities crime goes down. Crime occurs when disenfranchisement and lack of upward mobility fester. We would rather fund a police force to go to battle with these communities instead of doing the hard work to tackle the root of crime which has always been poverty. Poverty comes from lack of opportunity. No one chooses to be poor. Not even those people think enjoy welfare.
What you suggest is the very reason why people are protesting. This isn't a war where police are the troops and American communities are the enemy.
How many cops know the names of the people in the communities they patrol? How many cops get out and walk? Sponsor events for the youth? Mentor the youth? If more cops knew families and names, I guarantee you there would be more respect for police and police would have more respect for the communities they serve.
But when you start talking about battle pay and cops driving through communities instead of getting out and walking the beat, then you get the problems that you have today.
Because they would have to lower the standards even more to get ones that qualify. When people are complaining we need even higher standards. With affirmative action they are allowed lower test scores. You would have to allow people with criminal records. https://www.chicagoreporter.com/more...o-finish-line/
The number quitting is the opposite of what you say.
All the good ones in their right mind are the ones that will quit. And not recommend the job to anyone.
No one cares when they are killed anymore. A cop is much more likely to be killed by a black than a black by a cop.
And police cant even protect themselves anymore. I remember one case back in the Ferguson days. A black pulled a gun and tried to shoot a cop. Cop then pulled his gun next. The black guys gun misfired the cop fired and killed the guy. And there were protest over this.
Your last paragraph is nonsense. Shooting someone who has pulled a gun on you is classic self-defense under the law for either a cop or an an average citizen.
The cops who have been getting in trouble have done things like kill citizens with choke holds, shoot people who weren't pulling weapons, shoot someone in the back who was running away, or shoot a twelve year old with a toy gun. Even some of those situations are ambiguous. For example, if the cop reasonably believed the twelve year old with a toy gun had a real gun and was threatening him with it that would also be a case of self-defense.
Your last paragraph is nonsense. Shooting someone who has pulled a gun on you is classic self-defense under the law for either a cop or an an average citizen.
The cops who have been getting in trouble have done things like kill citizens with choke holds, shoot people who weren't pulling weapons, shoot someone in the back who was running away, or shoot a twelve year old with a toy gun. Even some of those situations are ambiguous. For example, if the cop reasonably believed the twelve year old with a toy gun had a real gun and was threatening him with it that would also be a case of self-defense.
Yes that is my point. It was self defense by the cop. Still they complained and protested this case. Even with the video. And someone wants to take this job?
Because they would have to lower the standards even more to get ones that qualify. When people are complaining we need even higher standards. With affirmative action they are allowed lower test scores. You would have to allow people with criminal records. https://www.chicagoreporter.com/more...o-finish-line/
The number quitting is the opposite of what you say.
All the good ones in their right mind are the ones that will quit. And not recommend the job to anyone.
No one cares when they are killed anymore. A cop is much more likely to be killed by a black than a black by a cop.
And police cant even protect themselves anymore. I remember one case back in the Ferguson days. A black pulled a gun and tried to shoot a cop. Cop then pulled his gun next. The black guys gun misfired the cop fired and killed the guy. And there were protest over this.
That's just racist nonsense. There is no affirmative action in the cop shop. You either can cut it or you can't, except maybe small towns where Bubba's uncle is the chief of police. As for cops quitting, they are not quitting over protests, they are quitting because they get to be tried by a judge and jury when they commit murder. If some gang banger pulls a piece and the cop puts him down, nobody is going to waste much time mourning him. If some cop breaks into the wrong house and pumps a full magazine into an unarmed woman sleeping in her own bed, they need to go down for the homicide.
That's just racist nonsense. There is no affirmative action in the cop shop. You either can cut it or you can't, except maybe small towns where Bubba's uncle is the chief of police. As for cops quitting, they are not quitting over protests, they are quitting because they get to be tried by a judge and jury when they commit murder. If some gang banger pulls a piece and the cop puts him down, nobody is going to waste much time mourning him. If some cop breaks into the wrong house and pumps a full magazine into an unarmed woman sleeping in her own bed, they need to go down for the homicide.
This happens with most jobs where minorities get an entitlement. USPS has done it for years. Only way to find qualified ones is to lower the standards.
And have been plently of interviews with police chiefs. Where they want to hire more blacks but most cant pass criminal background check themselves.
This happens with most jobs where minorities get an entitlement. USPS has done it for years. Only way to find qualified ones is to lower the standards.
And have been plently of interviews with police chiefs. Where they want to hire more blacks but most cant pass criminal background check themselves.
Your linked news story does not present a case that the reason that there are not many Black people on the police force in the city of Dayton is due to an inability to pass tests. There could be many reasons involved, such as a general distrust for the Dayton police within the Black community, a failure for Dayton police to do more outreach within the Black community, etc. which might discourage many people from choosing to take these tests to begin with.
Additionally, your citing of anecdotal evidence ("plenty of interviews") does not constitute facts. Supply a link to these interviews with police chiefs to back up your statement.
As this thread appears to be drifting more into a discussion of race and racial politics rather than police department staffing, this thread has run its course. Thread closed.
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