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Old 09-05-2021, 11:29 PM
 
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there's no jobs in rural America and that's why the younger whites are moving away and the older are dying off in record numbers. Sure if I had money to burn id invest in a rural lot but you need a job to live in America. Countries like Zimbabwe Philippines Mexico the family will build you your own shack and you'll have everything you need. Much different in America building a shack here with permits alone will run you 4k minimum
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Old 09-06-2021, 11:25 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Most of them which is why Africans will be the overwhelming majority in the world by 2080. Nigeria is leading the way and the rest of sub Saharan Africa is right behind. The human race started in Africa and will end in Africa. Not to mention african economies are booming
Looks like you are right - it will end in Africa. Africa's success will lead to its population downfall just like it has everywhere else people have become modernized.
As African women become emancipated and educated and establish careers they, too, will have fewer and fewer children. This chart shows how Nigerian fertility rates have fallen and are expected to fall further.
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Old 09-06-2021, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Looks like you are right - it will end in Africa. Africa's success will lead to its population downfall just like it has everywhere else people have become modernized.
As African women become emancipated and educated and establish careers they, too, will have fewer and fewer children. This chart shows how Nigerian fertility rates have fallen and are expected to fall further.
The human population will decrease, but that doesn't mean it will end. Theirs's always people who have more kids, and their kids are more likely to have more kids. As the birth rate declines, and population declines similarly to France (which had a TFR of 2.5 or less since around 1900). Their will always be people who have more kids than normal even in the modern world, and as their genes pass on, they will lead to the TFR of the country stabilizing or rising slightly, because the people who have 3 kids, have children than will have 2.5 kids, and as the overall population which is at an average of 1-2 kids, declines. The folks having 3 or more kids grow as part of the population.

Now not all countries have these populations with large TFR, but decline means that the people whose parents had 3 kids, will grow as a percentage of the remaining population. This means that if their 1% of the population in a country now, in a 100 years we could see like 30% of the population descending from people whose great-grandparents had 3 kids in 2020, meaning their more likely to have a higher birth rate than the general population, now they won't have the same rate as their great-grandparents, grandparents or even parents, but they will likely have a higher rate than the folks who come from the folks that descend from great-grandparents who had 2 kids.
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Old 09-06-2021, 03:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The human population will decrease, but that doesn't mean it will end. Theirs's always people who have more kids, and their kids are more likely to have more kids. As the birth rate declines, and population declines similarly to France (which had a TFR of 2.5 or less since around 1900). Their will always be people who have more kids than normal even in the modern world, and as their genes pass on, they will lead to the TFR of the country stabilizing or rising slightly, because the people who have 3 kids, have children than will have 2.5 kids, and as the overall population which is at an average of 1-2 kids, declines. The folks having 3 or more kids grow as part of the population.

Now not all countries have these populations with large TFR, but decline means that the people whose parents had 3 kids, will grow as a percentage of the remaining population. This means that if their 1% of the population in a country now, in a 100 years we could see like 30% of the population descending from people whose great-grandparents had 3 kids in 2020, meaning their more likely to have a higher birth rate than the general population, now they won't have the same rate as their great-grandparents, grandparents or even parents, but they will likely have a higher rate than the folks who come from the folks that descend from great-grandparents who had 2 kids.
The only thing that counts is fertility rate. And that is steadily decreasing.
I find it difficult to believe that humans will become extinct. But I do believe future populations will live in a greatly different world than the one you and I know. The more technology-dependent the population is, the harder it will be for them to adapt.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Japan is ground zero to look at. China will quickly be the next act. When the largest population country in the world institutes a 1 child policy, it's only a matter of time before they get smaller and older.
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Old 09-13-2021, 08:35 AM
 
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Most of them which is why Africans will be the overwhelming majority in the world by 2080. Nigeria is leading the way and the rest of sub Saharan Africa is right behind. The human race started in Africa and will end in Africa. Not to mention african economies are booming

That's some serious hyperbole. Fertility rates are already beginning an inexorable decline in Subsaharan Africa, likely declining to replacement rates by the end of the century--or maybe even sooner. https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate


As an economy emerges from subsistence farming, you don't have need for lots of kids. All you have to do is look at India, whose fertility rate is now just at replacement levels.



As far as Africa's long-term economic prospects? We'll see.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Japan is ground zero to look at. China will quickly be the next act. When the largest population country in the world institutes a 1 child policy, it's only a matter of time before they get smaller and older.
South Korea has struggled with population decline and has tried everything they could think of to stop it.
Now, they have resigned themselves to everything decline brings with it.
The fertility rate in South Korea is 0.92.
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Old 09-14-2021, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Maastricht, Netherlands
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The human population will decrease, but that doesn't mean it will end. Theirs's always people who have more kids, and their kids are more likely to have more kids. As the birth rate declines, and population declines similarly to France (which had a TFR of 2.5 or less since around 1900). Their will always be people who have more kids than normal even in the modern world, and as their genes pass on, they will lead to the TFR of the country stabilizing or rising slightly, because the people who have 3 kids, have children than will have 2.5 kids, and as the overall population which is at an average of 1-2 kids, declines. The folks having 3 or more kids grow as part of the population.

Now not all countries have these populations with large TFR, but decline means that the people whose parents had 3 kids, will grow as a percentage of the remaining population. This means that if their 1% of the population in a country now, in a 100 years we could see like 30% of the population descending from people whose great-grandparents had 3 kids in 2020, meaning their more likely to have a higher birth rate than the general population, now they won't have the same rate as their great-grandparents, grandparents or even parents, but they will likely have a higher rate than the folks who come from the folks that descend from great-grandparents who had 2 kids.
The problem is that it's always the lower IQ people who breed more than the higher ones, also if we are talking in the Western world. So we now have a Reversed Flynn Effect according to scientists To progress to a higher level society, we really don't want this. That's also the reason why it seems that after the 90's no really big things have been invented or achieved by humanity, except for the 'wonderful' social media. We're stalling and it needs a solution.
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Old 09-14-2021, 09:31 AM
 
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The problem is that it's always the lower IQ people who breed more than the higher ones, also if we are talking in the Western world. So we now have a Reversed Flynn Effect according to scientists To progress to a higher level society, we really don't want this. That's also the reason why it seems that after the 90's no really big things have been invented or achieved by humanity, except for the 'wonderful' social media. We're stalling and it needs a solution.
The above (highlighted in bold) is a blanket statement that is not necessarily true. The Orthodox Jewish community has a very high rate of childbirth per family, yet I would hardly describe Jews (or any other specific ethnic or racial group) as being "lower IQ people." Religion, as well as a compelling emotional need to add to numbers lost during the traumatizing events of the Holocaust, has much to do with birthrate.
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Old 09-14-2021, 08:13 PM
 
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As each country’s population shrinks, it must confront how to balance its economy with maintaining its cultural identity.

One possibility is to selectively accept immigrants who can best be assimilated to the point of maintaining the culture of their adopted country not only in their lifetimes, but also through any children they may have in their new country.

Or, countries may adopt Japan’s route and go at it alone without significant immigration and until they die out.

Interestingly, one of the countries opting for the latter is Latvia, which has seen its population halved since 1990 through a combination of low birth rate and high out migration of the youth. It’s so bad, they’re aging even faster than Italy and Japan.

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