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Old 10-27-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The H2 is just a Tahoe and the H3 a Silverado
They are not military vehicles, unless you want to shell out $100K for an H1.
I'd rather have a Land Rover for off road
No, no - I'm talking HUMMERS. The MILITARY surplus HUMMER. Ones that have been used by the MILITARY.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Wherever I want to be... ;)
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No, no - I'm talking HUMMERS. The MILITARY surplus HUMMER. Ones that have been used by the MILITARY.
Those are Humvees or "HMMWV". The H1 "Hummer" is a heavy-duty civilian car based on the Humvee and was made in limited production, AFAIK. The H2 and H3 are two other, less heavy-duty, mass-market vehicles.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Those are Humvees or "HMMWV". The H1 "Hummer" is a heavy-duty civilian car based on the Humvee and was made in limited production, AFAIK. The H2 and H3 are two other, less heavy-duty, mass-market vehicles.
OK. It is the Military versions I'm speaking of.
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Rather than measuring success by the retail value of someone's car, why not measure in terms of their life-long accomplishments?
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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In my life, the same people who have been against buying a new car have gone about and bought new, expensive cars themselves. I drive an old beat up piece of crap and it often seems that more people avoid me in it than welcome me, and they certain wouldn't be caught dead in the passenger's seat.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Rather than measuring success by the retail value of someone's car, why not measure in terms of their life-long accomplishments?

Folks with the accomplishments are usually those who driver better, newer cars. Most people aren't out there working for nothing.
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Old 11-07-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Folks with the accomplishments are usually those who driver better, newer cars. Most people aren't out there working for nothing.
Folks with accomplishments may drive a nicer car. But it is just a nice car. Measuring success by the retail value of your car is lame. Having a nice car is...well, nice. But using it as a statement of personal worth is wrongheaded and ...I just can't think of a better term than "lame." Anyone who measures my success by the car I drive is an idiot.

When I meet a young lady who says something like, "You must be successful you have a nice car." or "I broke up with that guy, he said he is a successful lawyer, but you should see the car he drives." When I hear that kind of crap, I just take her home. About three weeks ago a drop dead georgeous blond started that junk. I had just picked her up to go to dinner--our first date. I took her back home. I just got off the freeway, got back on the freeway going the other direction and took her home. She said, "Where are we going?" I said, "You measure the value of people by their personal possessions. I am taking you home. This date is over." She protested. I didn't care.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:10 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Folks with the accomplishments are usually those who driver better, newer cars. Most people aren't out there working for nothing.
No, folks with real, substantial accomplishments are the ones you read about in history books who have actually done something for humanity...

I've never looked at a fancy car or a big bank account as anything except economic masturbation. It might feel good, but what good does it do? Parading is not an accomplishment.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Maine
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I was listening to he Yolanda Adams morning show today while i was running errands. I heard Yolanda say something that got me thinking. She said, "Toyota is a fine car. But what if you bought the Toyota yesterday and got a call from the Mercedes dealership saying your credit was straight and you could get the Mercedes?" That made me think; here was a christian speaker basically saying that you should get a Mercedes if you are blessed enough to afford it. I'm thinking so i'm sinning if i can afford to pay for a Mercedes but choose to stick with my 01 honda accord and use the money i would have to pay for the mercedes for other things such as charity or helping my family or friends out if they fall on hard times?

This aint the only instance where i feel pressure of getting a new car if i have success. My mother and I were having a conversation of what i would do after college. She suggests i buy a new car after graduation. I say i probably own so i can concentrate on paying off college debt. Mom says sometimes its good to reward yourself. I say cant I reward myself by paying off my college debts a couple of years early?

Whenever i see a nice new expensive car i think of a few of things, debt, upkeep, the condition of that person, and security.

- Debt. Whenever i see a Mercedes or BMW, i think how much are the payments running per month? How much is it to insure?

- Upkeep. How much does that car cost to maintain? I've heard of European cars like BMW and Mercedes costing thousands a year to maintain. Its hard enough for me as a college student keeping a 01 Honda accord matained. How is someone making $30k a year gonna maintain a Mercedes?

- Condition of the person. Why did that person buy a BMW or Mercedes? Is it to show off? Is it regional pressure? Is it to give an impression that you've done something great?

- Security. In my neighborhood, upscale cars are vandalized and broken into all the time. Just last week a Lexus SUV got its entire front body stolen off it inside my parking garage. Why would you buying an expensive car if you live in a questionable or bad neighborhood?

I guess it is the materialistic nature of the US. Success is measured in posessions instead of the impact you leave on other people's lives. I think its sad that people will think i'm broke and unsuccessful because i'll see no reason to part with my (hopefully running) 01 honda accord after my college graduation.
Success to me would be a paid off house, fully funded retirement accounts, no debt, and the ability to retire at least 10 years early (at 55) if you wanted to. That is success, and that comes only from diligent management and investment of your money. Most millionaires don't advertise the fact. They live beneath their means and don't give in to impulse buying and "keeping up with the Joneses."
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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No, folks with real, substantial accomplishments are the ones you read about in history books who have actually done something for humanity...

I've never looked at a fancy car or a big bank account as anything except economic masturbation. It might feel good, but what good does it do? Parading is not an accomplishment.
Is it really parading? It's just that people might want to buy a nice car to get around. Nothing wrong with that is it? I get it that people should not be judged by the kind of car they drive, but putting people down for it is just as lame. In the long run, cars and fluff aren't any measure of success, but for cryin' out loud people should just stop criticizing folks for taking on a few material things ever so often.
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