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Old 11-16-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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You know what I don't understand? The marijuana smokers say that smoking pot is good for them, etc. Yet we hear, and it is proven, if you are smoking cigarettes it's bad. Cancer, copd, etc. But pot? Pot is good? I mean you suck that stuff into your lungs and HOLD it there. And you're NOT getting anything harmful like burning by-products? But with cigarettes you are and mary-j you aren't? And don't tell me about the frequency, smokers smoke a lot more because there are people that get high ALL DAY. If sucking in something burning is harmful, then it's harmful PERIOD, not just for cigarettes. What is pot-smoking a cold burning while cigarettes are a warm-burning or some crap?
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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You know what I don't understand? The marijuana smokers say that smoking pot is good for them, etc. Yet we hear, and it is proven, if you are smoking cigarettes it's bad. Cancer, copd, etc. But pot? Pot is good? I mean you suck that stuff into your lungs and HOLD it there. And you're NOT getting anything harmful like burning by-products? But with cigarettes you are and mary-j you aren't? And don't tell me about the frequency, smokers smoke a lot more because there are people that get high ALL DAY. If sucking in something burning is harmful, then it's harmful PERIOD, not just for cigarettes. What is pot-smoking a cold burning while cigarettes are a warm-burning or some crap?
I read about a recent study that said a small amount of pot smoking improved lung function. Their argument was compelling, but regardless of that I wouldn't suggest that people smoke pot to help their lungs. BUT the amount smoked between cigs and pot makes a huge difference. Even people who stay high all day don't go through anywhere close to the amount of burning material that a two pack a day smoker does. And yes, pot can be as pure as the grower intends, to the level of being organic. Cigs are known to contain dozens of chemical compounds that aren't part of the tobacco.

Cigarettes do little more than feed the addiction they caused. Pot has many medically proven attributes.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:11 AM
 
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You know what I don't understand? The marijuana smokers say that smoking pot is good for them, etc. Yet we hear, and it is proven, if you are smoking cigarettes it's bad. Cancer, copd, etc. But pot? Pot is good? I mean you suck that stuff into your lungs and HOLD it there. And you're NOT getting anything harmful like burning by-products? But with cigarettes you are and mary-j you aren't? And don't tell me about the frequency, smokers smoke a lot more because there are people that get high ALL DAY. If sucking in something burning is harmful, then it's harmful PERIOD, not just for cigarettes. What is pot-smoking a cold burning while cigarettes are a warm-burning or some crap?
And in any event, it should be the choice of the individual to smoke pot or not. The government needs to get out of my house. There's no good reason to keep pot illegal.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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sure there is.

Many teenage girls lose their virginity during pot smoking binges I mean.... I know this one for a fact.. girls get easy when drunk or high..!
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I have yet to see on the news someone being killed in an accident where a driver was under the influence of marijuana. Yet alcohol I hear every week.

Most of the people I know who smoke pot don't drive while high, the reason for this, I think, is because the don't have the ambition to get out of the chair.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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And in any event, it should be the choice of the individual to smoke pot or not. The government needs to get out of my house. There's no good reason to keep pot illegal.
Should we legalize meth? What about heroin? Why or why not?
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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The American College of Physicians (ACP) issued a new policy statement last week endorsing medical marijuana use. The group is urging the government to reverse its ban on medical treatments using marijuana. "ACP encourages the use of non-smoked forms of THC (the main psychoactive element in marijuana) that have proven therapeutic value," the new policy statement said. The Philadelphia-based organization, the second largest doctors group in the United States, cited studies into marijuana’s medical applications such as treating severe weight loss associated with illnesses such as AIDS, and treating nausea and vomiting associated with chemotherapy for cancer patients.[i]
Medical marijuana is becoming more and more associated with anti-carcinogenic effects, which are responsible in preventing or delaying the development of cancer. This means that cannabinoids offer cancer patients a therapeutic option in the treatment of highly invasive cancers. Before we look at the hard medical science that sustains these statements go to The OFFICIAL Rick Simpson Cancer Cure/Hemp Oil Channel - YouTube to see a series of videos that will convince you of the validity of these statements on cancer. The American College of Physicians wants it made legal as do millions of other people. If you or one of your loved ones every get cancer you will be wishing that the government would begin to listen to this medical organization.
12 Million new cases of Cancer Diagnosed in 2007 in the US. In addition Cancer also killed 8 million people worldwide in 2007
- American Cancer Society

After reading the science and watching this video series I am certain that any sane person with cancer or any late stage chronic disease will want free and legal access to hemp oil with a maximum concentration of THC, the active ingredient that is illegal in most places in the world. [ii]



The medical science is strongly in favor of THC laden hemp oil as a primary cancer therapy, not just in a supportive role to control the side effects of chemotherapy. The International Medical Verities Association is putting hemp oil on its cancer protocol. It is a prioritized protocol list whose top five items are magnesium chloride, iodine, selenium, Alpha Lipoic Acid and sodium bicarbonate. It makes perfect sense to drop hemp oil right into the middle of this nutritional crossfire of anti cancer medicines, which are all available without prescription.
Hemp oil has long been recognised as one of the most versatile and beneficial substances known to man. Derived from hemp seeds (a member of the achene family of fruits) it has been regarded as a superfood due to its high essential fatty acid content and the unique ratio of omega3 to omega6 and gamma linolenic acid (GLA) - 2:5:1. Hemp oil, is known to contain up to 5% of pure GLA, a much higher concentration than any other plant, even higher than spirulina. For thousands of years, the hemp plant has been used in elixirs and medicinal teas because of its healing properties and now medical science is zeroing in on the properties of its active substances.
Both the commercial legal type of hemp oil and the illegal THC laden hemp oil are one of the most power-packed protein sources available in the plant kingdom. Its oil can be used in many nutritional and transdermal applications. In other chapters in my Winning the War on Cancer book we will discuss in-depth about GLA and cancer and also the interesting work of Dr. Johanna Budwig. She uses flax seed oil instead of hemp oil to cure cancer - through effecting changes in cell walls - using these omega3 and omega6 laden medicinal oils.





Hemp oil contains 57% linoleic (LA) and 19% linolenic (LNA) acids, in the three-to-one ratio that matches our nutritional needs. These are the essential fatty acids (EFAs)-so called because the body cannot make them and must get them from external sources. The best sources are oils from freshly ground grains and whole seeds, but EFAs are fragile and quickly lost in processing. EFAs are the building blocks of longer chain fats, such as eicosapentaenoic (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) that occur naturally in the fat of cold-water fish like sardines, mackerel, salmon, bluefish, herring, and, to a lesser extent, tuna.

Adding these foods to the diet seems to lower risks of heart attacks because omega-3 fatty acids reduce the clotting tendency of the blood and improve cholesterol profiles. They also have a natural anti-inflammatory effect that makes them useful for people with arthritis and autoimmune disorders.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: EPWV
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Guys might want to rethink whether it's a good thing or not for them to use pot.
Been hearing on the news how Univ of Southern Calif Scientists see correlation between pot and testicular cancer.

Smoking marijuana linked to testicular cancer - Health - Men's health | NBC News
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Testicular cancer is relatively uncommon in the United States, with approximately 5500 cases per year.
Testicular cancers are relatively rare but highly curable, and occur predominantly in young and middle aged males. Testicular cancers were among the first types of cancers to be cured by radiation and/or chemotherapy, and treatment has been refined over the last two decades. Currently, over 70% of all patients are curable regardless of the extent of cancer.

More than 90% of testicular neoplasms originate from germ cells.6 The incidence of testicular germ cell tumors (GCTs) increases shortly after the onset of puberty and peaks in the fourth decade of life with a median age of 34 years at diagnosis.7 The incidence varies among different races and various geographic locations. It is 5 times more frequent in white men compared with African American men.8 Among nations with the highest reported incidence are Scandinavia, Germany, and New Zealand.9
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The study, published online Sept. 10, 2012, in the American Cancer Society journal Cancer, speculates that environmental causes, including recreational drug use, may play a role.
In this study, 163 men diagnosed with testicular germ cell tumors and 292 men not diagnosed with the tumors were interviewed about their recreational drug use. This means that this was a retrospective study, one that asks people about their habits and social life after they have been diagnosed.

While this study is interesting, it must also be taken with a grain of salt. Case-control studies such as this compare a group of people with a certain disease to a group of similar people without it, to look for factors that may contribute to the disease. However, this type of study can’t prove that a factor actually causes the disease.


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Old 11-17-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Hove,UK
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Should we legalize meth? What about heroin? Why or why not?
Yes,we should.
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