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It has more to to with out of control medical costs than trying to take people's freedom. Smokers and obese people are expensive to keep alive.
It has nothing to do with controlling medical costs. That is not a legitimate argument. If so, then it would be do not to hire women because the coverage for them comes at a higher price. Just because one smokes or is overweight doesn't dictate what future cost would be. If that were true, they would be forced to look at people with HBP or the medical history of the family, those carry more *weight* than where someone tips a scale.
Employers and liberty have nothing to do with each other. A man who pays you to do a job has a right to expect that you can and will do it efficiently, without disrupting the workplace.
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I'm painting the exterior of a rental house right now. It would be absurd for me to hire somebody that is so morbidly obese that he cannot stand up, let alone get on a ladder. It's not due to hatred, but to the fact that he simply could not do the job.
I'm painting the exterior of a rental house right now. It would be absurd for me to hire somebody that is so morbidly obese that he cannot stand up, let alone get on a ladder. It's not due to hatred, but to the fact that he simply could not do the job.
You're cherry picking. It wouldn't make sense for me to hire an 87 pound walking skeleton to work on the oil rigs in north Alaska during a 50 below arctic winter either, would it?
I'm painting the exterior of a rental house right now. It would be absurd for me to hire somebody that is so morbidly obese that he cannot stand up, let alone get on a ladder. It's not due to hatred, but to the fact that he simply could not do the job.
Someone who is truly morbidly obese wouldn't even attempt to go for such a job. I don't think that is a fair comparison, unless you are one who is of the mindset that 2 % body fat is now morbidly obese?
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Jtur. So you agree that just because someones
religion says they need to pray to Mecca
six times a
day they should
not be allowed extra
breaks as it costs the company money?
Jtur. So you agree that just because someones
religion says they need to pray to Mecca
six times a
day they should
not be allowed extra
breaks as it costs the company money?
I'm going to find a religion in which work is considered sinful according to my cleric's interpretation of the scriptures. Then I can make the government force employers to hire me, and I won't be required to do anything at all in the shop.
If a person is a member of a religion that requires six breaks a day, he is not suitable for assembly line or other cooperative environment jobs. He can train himself to do a job in which the breaks are not disruptive to the workplace.
There are Muslims playing NFL football and NBA basketball. I don't recall see the officials calling a prayer time out. Funny how when a Muslim is paid several million dollars a year, stopping work to pray slides down the list of on-the-job priorities. When Sandy Koufax refused to pitch on Yom Kippur, the World Series went right on without him. Should the series have been postponed until he was ready?
I am also in agreement that this has nothing to do with liberty.
People's lifestyles have always been called into question for employment. Educators have to be extremely careful of where they go, what they do, and whom they associate with. Sexual orientation may also come into play.
Further, this group of people, especially in primary and secondary education, will leave work and then have to go home and grade papers and adjust lesson plans or create new ones and further their education on their own dime. They may have to attend school functions on top of this. They will definitely attend meetings.
All of this must occur even if the educator has children, or a spouse with an illness, or is going through a divorce, or smokes or is obese, or has a book they just want to read. This one job decides the quality of life that one may have.
Now, when everyday people who are employed anywhere face obstacles or did face obstacles at one time, the mental health records can be checked into. This, I believe, keeps people from seeking help that they may truly need. This also occurs when looking at someone's personal financial history.
You're cherry picking. It wouldn't make sense for me to hire an 87 pound walking skeleton to work on the oil rigs in north Alaska during a 50 below arctic winter either, would it?
Nope. And that's the whole point.
Nobody should be forced to hire somebody who cannot do the job.
Someone who is truly morbidly obese wouldn't even attempt to go for such a job. I don't think that is a fair comparison, unless you are one who is of the mindset that 2 % body fat is now morbidly obese?
So what is your argument? And why are you assuming things about what I believe constitutes morbidly obese?
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