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Old 08-22-2009, 05:12 AM
 
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Talk about hypocrites! We live in a society that rears 40% of their children in single family homes. Most children have experienced sex by the time they reach 13 years of age. Sex is all over TV both day and night. Society teaches our children that it is OK to be gay but that paying for sex with a women is taboo. That just doesn't make sense.
Our society doesn't have the morals or ethics of a band of monkeys and yet we would like to look down on prostitutes. Hypocrites!
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:52 AM
 
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Our society has already advanced to the point where informal prostitution takes place all the time, but it simply isn't called that. But it could be semi-formalized with certain understiandngs.

Let's say a guy hits on a woman, who immediately identifies herself, if she wishes to accept, as a quasi-prostitute. The date goes proceeds pretty much like any other first date. But there is an understanding that money will be exchanged if it proceeds to a sexual climax. The couple goes out for a nice dinner, show, dancing, whatever, all on the man's plastic, just like any other date, and talk about whatever couples talk about, and get to know each other. At any point along the way, the man can terminate the evening, if it is felt unsuitable, with a cancellation fee, or restocking charge, payable to the woman. If everything goes according to plan, the end of the evening results in payment of the negotiated fee for services rendered.

The only way that differs from current dating practices is that the total cost to the man is a little bit higher, and in exchange the troublesome anxiety about the sexual outcome is removed.
Agree. And both ways are disgusting because it involves the exploitation of the other for personal gain.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Agree. And both ways are disgusting because it involves the exploitation of the other for personal gain.
Willing explotitation is different in most adults eyes.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:23 AM
 
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Please ponder the following:

'1. Not everyone shares your definition of morality. Not everyone is an evangelical Christian. My problem with people who are always screaming "morality" is simple. Morality is different than legality. I can always go to the state code books and look up what the law is. With morality, its different we have to rely on your opinion and that of others. When two of us disagree about what morality is you aren't automatically right while I am automatically wrong. Rather, we have a dispute.
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REPLY: This is why its vital to have an absolute foundation of core morals, ethics, and values in society...otherwise, chaos and confusion occurs with everyone just speaking their opinion and living their opinion , which brings widespread degradation to a nation . The Founders of this Country recognized this problem and wanted for America a solid foundation of absolute moral laws for its people to live by. Do you know which foundation they thought and knew was best (?) . It wasnt the one where everybody does what they FEEL like doing. The Founders wanted less disputes , not more due to 'personal opinion' .

'What if I think big game hunting is immoral because of the pain animals that are shot with guns are subjected too? Or, what if I think its immoral to fight a war Iraq that I disagree with? These are things that are happening today and I can't stop them.
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REPLY: Fortunately, you have the opportunity to try to change that if you desire , civily.

'2. Prostitution will exist whether you pass a law against it or not. It always has existed, no one has ever explained how and when it will no longer exist.
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REPLY: Agree. Its part of the depravity of mankind.

'3. Under the status quo, dangers exist for all parties participating in prostitution. The prostitute may be beaten or raped. She may be abused by others seeking to control her and sell her services. Her customer is in danger too. Many customers have been robbed and mistreated.
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REPLY: These are manifestations further proving that prostitution is wrong, dangerous, and bad for society indeed.

'4. If a system if licensing were in place, it would be possible to (a) inspect prostitutes for sexually transmitted disease. It could be treated in many cases. We could prevent its spread to many other people. This not only benefits the parties involved, but would likely benefit innocent wives who do not know that their husband is engaged in this behavior. Are you against preventing the spread of STD's to innocent people? (b) discourage drug abuse and drug users. Such people could be denied a license to work in this occupation. (c) prevent robbery and physical violence to the prostitute and her customers. This would occur because all prostitutes would work in a facility subject to licensing and inspection. (d) Collect taxes. Because of the illegal nature of this occupation, the prostitute seldom pays income tax. There is no reason why we should subsidize her. Let her work and pay taxes on her earnings like everyone else.
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REPLY: Masking and minipulating something which is inherently wrong, never converts it to being correct ; sexual immorality being absolutely wrong is unchanging, despite dressing it up to help justify it. Its not wrong because 'I' say so ; its wrong because The Creator indicates it is. I suppose if you want to pretend there is no personal Creator who instilled in our fibre an absolute moral code as the Declaration of Independence explicitly states...then it and anything else would be permissable (given enough time for the culture to become increasingly more apathetic).

'I think there are valid objections to legalizing prostitution. However, if the only objection one can make is "I think that would be immoral" its terribly unconvincing to me.'

REPLY: Again, its not what i think that matters nor what you think that matters ; we both should be convinced on what the Creator has instructed in written form and thru our moral conscience on foundational core issues (unless we would rather suppress that because we think WE know better). God is such a fly-in-the-ointment ... which is why he is no longer needed in America ; afterall, NO ONE has the right to mess with what WE want. Correct ?!
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:27 AM
 
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Willing explotitation is different in most adults eyes.
Might be because this is where America is at today ; round up another who agrees with a wrong...and it converts it to being correct (An agreement for both people to suppress their moral conscience for the sake of personal gain, regardless).
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Old 08-22-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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Yes - Many
I'm not buying it. Not at all.

A last resort, maybe.

But I'm not buying it that there are hordes of women thinking, "Hey, you know, I think it'd be quite a hoot to have guys pay me money to use me sexually."

Just not buying it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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I suspect that most, if not all prostitutes have no desire to do what they do. However, how many of us end up working a job we have strictly for the money? A bad boss, an impossible schedule, unpleasant co-workers, or too much work to do can make any job extremely unpleasant. This is nothing new its simply the way capitalism and the world are. The reality is that the primary reason most people work any job is for the paycheck that they are getting. Some of us find other non-pecuniary reasons to keep working, but money is almost always going to be part of it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I suspect that most, if not all prostitutes have no desire to do what they do. However, how many of us end up working a job we have strictly for the money? A bad boss, an impossible schedule, unpleasant co-workers, or too much work to do can make any job extremely unpleasant. This is nothing new its simply the way capitalism and the world are. The reality is that the primary reason most people work any job is for the paycheck that they are getting. Some of us find other non-pecuniary reasons to keep working, but money is almost always going to be part of it.
Actually, I know a girl that escorts. She chooses to do it because she likes it. She is picky about who she sees, but she sees it as a vacation from reality for her.

She has no morals about casual sex. She is very smart, going to school to be a history teacher, and is currently working full time in a nursing home.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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Might be because this is where America is at today ; round up another who agrees with a wrong...and it converts it to being correct (An agreement for both people to suppress their moral conscience for the sake of personal gain, regardless).
Prostitution has been seen as a perfectly legitimate profession in many cultures, throughout the world for thousands of years. England, Canada, France, Germany, Israel (ancient and modern), many Muslim countries, and countless other Christian, Hindu, Buddhists, Jewish, and Muslim countries all have prostitution, they don't look down on it, and they have survived for a lot longer than the United States has been around.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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'Actually, I know a girl that escorts. She chooses to do it because she likes it. She is picky about who she sees, but she sees it as a vacation from reality for her.

She has no morals about casual sex. She is very smart, going to school to be a history teacher, and is currently working full time in a nursing home'

REPLY: Theres a big difference between being smart and educated versus being wise. Being amoral is highly unwise ; not to mention lack of dignity .
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