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Old 10-03-2009, 04:56 PM
 
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Assuming you are correct in that you turned out allright,would you admit the possibility of having turned out even better had you had a father?

The good is the enemy of the best.
Depends on your definition of "better" and it depends on the father. What would me being "better" entail and how do you think my having a father would influence that? Currently, I'm very happy, I'm finishing up my Master's degree and getting ready to go abroad, I have good friends and family and I think I'm a good friend and daughter in return. I really doubt having a father figure would have changed me all that much unless he had been abusive. Perhaps it's uncommon in this society but I am thrilled with my life and happy with the way I am. A Leave it to Beaver nuclear family isn't required to be "the best" but, I admit, it probably makes life a bit easier.

Note: I'm not saying I'm "the best", but I do think I'm pretty damn good.
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Old 10-03-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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Depends on your definition of "better" and it depends on the father. What would me being "better" entail and how do you think my having a father would influence that? Currently, I'm very happy, I'm finishing up my Master's degree and getting ready to go abroad, I have good friends and family and I think I'm a good friend and daughter in return. I really doubt having a father figure would have changed me all that much unless he had been abusive. Perhaps it's uncommon in this society but I am thrilled with my life and happy with the way I am. A Leave it to Beaver nuclear family isn't required to be "the best" but, I admit, it probably makes life a bit easier.

Note: I'm not saying I'm "the best", but I do think I'm pretty damn good.
Perhaps he would have taught you that pride is the greatest sin, and does indeed go before the fall.

Good Luck !
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:27 PM
 
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Perhaps he would have taught you that pride is the greatest sin, and does indeed go before the fall.

Good Luck !
oh well, god forbid people work hard to make something of their lives and be proud of it.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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oh well, god forbid people work hard to make something of their lives and be proud of it.
Yes, it is indeed God, he expects you to be grateful for it and not proud.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Yes, it is indeed God, he expects you to be grateful for it and not proud.
No, the only thing He ever expects is for you to kiss His ass. If you don't, you'll suffer eternal torment in His loving forgiving charitable revenge.
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: New York
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Depends on your definition of "better" and it depends on the father. What would me being "better" entail and how do you think my having a father would influence that? Currently, I'm very happy, I'm finishing up my Master's degree and getting ready to go abroad, I have good friends and family and I think I'm a good friend and daughter in return. I really doubt having a father figure would have changed me all that much unless he had been abusive. Perhaps it's uncommon in this society but I am thrilled with my life and happy with the way I am. A Leave it to Beaver nuclear family isn't required to be "the best" but, I admit, it probably makes life a bit easier.

Note: I'm not saying I'm "the best", but I do think I'm pretty damn good.
That's right, I wouldn't change my single-parent upbringing at all, it made me the strong, smart, future successful person that I am today. Congrats on finishing up your masters, I'm currently finishing up High School lol.

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Old 10-03-2009, 08:15 PM
 
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I think it's important in emotional development to have a father figure present. That doesn't mean that it has to be a biological father, but someone who can at least be available when needed.

I missed my father terribly when I was a child and he wasn't around. I think I see the effects of that today as an adult. That's not to say that I wouldn't be the same if he were in my everyday life though.
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Old 10-03-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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From observing my young nephew grow without the presence of an alcoholic father, I am on the side of it's not crucial. He has an influence on his son, but the time spent with him is at least (or I hope it is) while he's not under the influence. My nephew is well adjusted and happy with this arrangement.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:13 PM
 
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From observing my young nephew grow without the presence of an alcoholic father, I am on the side of it's not crucial. He has an influence on his son, but the time spent with him is at least (or I hope it is) while he's not under the influence. My nephew is well adjusted and happy with this arrangement.
Obviously ,one would assume that any reasonable person would know the pro-fathers arguements assume that all is "everything else being equal.""

You don't know the real facts till their elder years folks.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If the father is an abuser, wouldn't you be better off with his abuse?
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