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People watch porn to get off. It's not out in left field to figure people are probably getting off in those libraries. I have no interest being exposed to that, let alone children.
Our local library has no filters on internet use in the adult section. I am a frequent customer of our the library, although I rarely use the computers there, since mine at home is better.
There have been NO cases of somebody getting themselves off in the library. At least not so that anyone else could tell. It's really an unfounded worry.
It's not like other materials, where if the library doesn't want it they just don't order it. They have the internet, therefore porn is available. It would cost them extra to filter it, and those filters are unreliable at best, and typically also filter out legitimate content. The fact that they have to take extra steps to eliminate it makes it active censorship, which I am against.
There are certain risks inherent in a free society. You can be safe or you can be free, take your choice. You cannot have both.
People watch porn to get off. It's not out in left field to figure people are probably getting off in those libraries. I have no interest being exposed to that, let alone children.
Exactly.
There is a big difference between nudity and porn. Porn is for the express purpose of sexual arousal. It's not educational, and is not necessary. People in libraries - especially children - should not be exposed to it.
The issue, I think, is not "turning libraries into porn shops" nor is that any library's intent. Rather, the issue is taking arbitrary measures to block out material that would, as a matter of course, leak into the library, like bra ads in Cosmo.
Really. I didn't read any links that may have been provided. I just was going on the title and OP. I agree that it's silly to block underwear ads.
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The library can deal on an individual basis with incidents that exceed the bounds of reasonable use. Simply put up signs that say "no visible ejaculation arcs" or something, and then ban people who break the rules in a manner that offends public decency.
I don't think that would be appropriate. I would not, nor allow any children I have, to spend time in a place with signs like that posted around. There's a definate yuk factor about it.
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Our local library has no filters on internet use in the adult section. I am a frequent customer of our the library, although I rarely use the computers there, since mine at home is better.
There have been NO cases of somebody getting themselves off in the library. At least not so that anyone else could tell. It's really an unfounded worry.
I don't see why it's unfounded. I'd bet 99% of people that watch porn do so to get off regardless of where they're doing it. It's certainly a risk. Perhaps you did not use their rest rooms for such activities, and maybe most adults wouldn't, but it's, again, not far-fetched to figure some kid will find their way.
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It's not like other materials, where if the library doesn't want it they just don't order it. They have the internet, therefore porn is available. It would cost them extra to filter it, and those filters are unreliable at best, and typically also filter out legitimate content. The fact that they have to take extra steps to eliminate it makes it active censorship, which I am against.
Active cencorship bologna. I'm against having to pay for you getting your jollies off. Ideally, it would be great for towns to have a vote on the issue. If I could opt out of paying for a library that caters to folk interested in public eroticism, I would. Let you all pay for it if you want it. There's also the small charge that a child in the library can be exposed to porn because you can't wait to get home. I don't know for sure, but I don't see how that could be legal.
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There are certain risks inherent in a free society. You can be safe or you can be free, take your choice. You cannot have both.
Again, I find the appeal drama here to be wanting. We do not live in a 'free' society. There are very few out there. We have to have permits to contend with private property, to gather, to sell goods on the street, etc. The argument would work if we were in a couple of countries in Asia; not here. You are not free to do whatever you want in the US.
There is a big difference between nudity and porn. Porn is for the express purpose of sexual arousal. It's not educational, and is not necessary. People in libraries - especially children - should not be exposed to it.
Well, hell must be awful cold right now. We actually agree on something lol.
Active cencorship bologna. I'm against having to pay for you getting your jollies off..
Well, I'm against having to pay for proselytizing religious organizations, and nut-job bloggers whipping up general hatred, and self-serving interpretations of the constitution, and embedded ads pitching pharmaceuticals and junk food. But if they can sneak their BS through library content filters, I'd rather take steps to be sure my kids know how to deal with it, than to pay to have non-mainstream material censored. Our all-controlling censor-crazy society is throwing too many babies out with the bathwater, and still being left with a half a tub of dirty suds.
There is a big difference between nudity and porn. Porn is for the express purpose of sexual arousal. It's not educational, and is not necessary. People in libraries - especially children - should not be exposed to it.
Well, I'm against having to pay for proselytizing religious organizations, and nut-job bloggers whipping up general hatred, and self-serving interpretations of the constitution, and embedded ads pitching pharmaceuticals and junk food. But if they can sneak their BS through library content filters, I'd rather take steps to be sure my kids know how to deal with it, than to pay to have non-mainstream material censored. Our all-controlling censor-crazy society is throwing too many babies out with the bathwater, and still being left with a half a tub of dirty suds.
All of this is a part of reality that we must deal with; religion, politics, the news/etc. You (general you) getting sexually aroused at a public library is something the whole world can go without and it wouldn't matter one darn bit. That may be a low blow to take on, but deal.
You realize that anyone watching porn at the library right now is doing so for 'free' right?
It'd only raise the amount of 'tax dollars' you pay by doing something to stop it.
It's not free. Who is paying for the electricity, net connections, maintenance...even the chairs their nasty arses are sitting on? In my town, I pay. Why? because I pay a but load in property taxes. And I have little doubt the morons going to the library my money provides are not contributing. Having to stop their nastiness via more tax dollars would, again, be the fault of the inconsiderate perv. And then there's the small fact that this argument doesn't hold water. You can say the same thing about the police, any regulation, any kind of reform.
Frankly, it would be far easier if all these guys go together, started a club, paid for their own internet, and got together to do their business side by side, rather than subjecting the children of the people that actually keep the library open.
And to be clear, nothing at the library is free. I'm willing to pay in order to help educate people. It's assinine that any one would suggest that the tax payer should have to pay for perv behavior.
To add - I absolutely believe these people get their kicks by involving others via a public venue; otherwise they would do it in private. And if you (general you) cannot afford a computer and internet to watch your porn in private, then get a job.
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