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To the other poster...I dont need to give an IQ test. If you have to state that where you grew up makes you stronger you have a low IQ.
What is your evidence for this claim? What possible link is there between stating where you grew up and IQ? Hell, I'd be impressed if you could come up with even a reasonable inference supporting such a claim.
What is your evidence for this claim? What possible link is there between stating where you grew up and IQ? Hell, I'd be impressed if you could come up with even a reasonable inference supporting such a claim.
There is a very strong link between IQ and making a patently absurd statement such as "He must have a higher IQ because he grew up in the erudite city, and is therefore not a bumpkin". Like, if in the 2010 census, a city rises above a certain defining population threshold, its inhabitants suddenly become smart. Yes, there is very definitely a strong link between making such statements, and IQ.
People from cities often think they are better & know more than others. Some think theyre bad ass & others think theyre high society. I think theyre mostly ignorant people who cant see beyond the smog infested ghettos they love so much.
NYU, Columbia, Georgetown, Harvard, USC, UCLA, UPenn, Rice, Carnegie-Mellon, University of Washington, Washington University, University of Minnesota, University of Chicago? Your assertion is bizarre.
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Considering that about 80% of the population lives in what are arguably "large cities", one would expect, just by pure chance, that top universities in cities would outnumber those outside cities about about 4:1. I need to see a much longer list.
By the way, how did our large cities get so large, since no bumpkins ever move from the country into the large cities to deflower the elite intellectual superiority of the teeming masses?
Considering that about 80% of the population lives in what are arguably "large cities", one would expect, just by pure chance, that top universities in cities would outnumber those outside cities about about 4:1. I need to see a much longer list.
By the way, how did our large cities get so large, since no bumpkins ever move from the country into the large cities to deflower the elite intellectual superiority of the teeming masses?
Exactly. And why if city folks are so much smarter are they often the places with the highest crime rates, biggest slums, highest unemployment etc?
From an outsiders point of view only a fool would trade quality of life for the proximity to a university.
Universities exist in cities more for logistical reasons than any other, not because cities are populated by smarter or better people.
Considering that about 80% of the population lives in what are arguably "large cities", one would expect, just by pure chance, that top universities in cities would outnumber those outside cities about about 4:1. I need to see a much longer list.
But why would that be if "[c]olleges were intentionally placed away from big cities, to avoid the negative urban influence"?
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By the way, how did our large cities get so large, since no bumpkins ever move from the country into the large cities to deflower the elite intellectual superiority of the teeming masses?
I don't even know what the hell this is in reference to, so... um, OK...
I didnt mean to imply all people from these areas have a low IQ. I know plenty of people form these areas who have higher than average IQ's. But the ones who would rather fight things out than talk things out and the ones who have to point out they are from these areas and somehow it makes them a badass...these people have low IQ's.
Simply being from an urban neighborhood does not make you tougher. Just as what college you went to does not make you smarter.
I just love how people like to point these things out. I was raised in such and such slum... I went to such and such college. Am I supposed to be impressed? Scared? Cause Im not.
And I love the ones who say they are in a gang or where in a gang just to intimidate you. I think gangs are for wimps. Standing on your own shows strength.
Okay...so on that note, how about people who think that they're smarter and better than everyone else because they grew up in Grosse Pointe or Orange County or went to an Ivy League as opposed to a state school or (gasp) a community college?
But why would that be if "[c]olleges were intentionally placed away from big cities, to avoid the negative urban influence"?
Only ten states chose to place their major central public university in one of the state's biggest cities. The rest are in places like Morgantown and Tuscaloosa and Eugene and Lawrence and Boulder.
And did they do this "to avoid the negative urban influence" or did they do this because land for expansive universities was cheaper, more readily available, and more accessible to other population centers? Exactly what "urban" cesspool in West Virginia were they trying to avoid by placing WVU in Morgantown?
It seems that many people use superficialities to define themselves, and to compare themselves favorably to the majority. If that weren't the case, people wouldn't buy jeans and T-shirts that costs hundreds of dollars yet are made with the same materials that $30 jeans are made with.
Sadly, we are a superficial society. Saying that you're stronger, tougher, or more bad ass because of where you grew up is no different than saying how much smarter you are because you went to Ivy League, or how much important you are because of your profession or how much money you have, or how much better looking you are because of your size and shape, or basing your self esteem on what race, gender, religion, social class, sexual orientation is.
I've been exploring this idea of judgment and comparison with my students because I see how much of their self-worth is defined by their status. Its a constant struggle between wanting to fit in and wanting to stand out.
It reminds me of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: Physiological (food, water), Safety, Love and Belonging, Esteem, and Self-Actualization. I guess wherever we are not getting our needs met is where we tend to get stuck defining ourselves. So if its Safety - maybe its how tough we are, if its Esteem its how smart or how attractive or how wealthy we are.
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