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I don't see the problem, as long as people know the dangers and it's not a public health danger, they can consume whatever they wish. Then they can suffer the consequences. Many are germ theory deniers anyway, crazy enough to think germs don't make you sick (an extreme few will drink a vial of pathogens, which is really funny).
The only problem is that raw milk can contain TB, especially multiple drug resistant TB (Listeria and E. coli are more common, but can be deadly to children and the immune compromised).
Welcome to the beginning of the 1900's again if more people start getting infected with resistant TB.
MathGuy - you're right, I'm not a PhD in Statistics. My degree was in Marketing, and I'm very well versed in how statistical data gets spun to make the sell (regardless of whether or not the scientists and mathmeticians did their jobs properly). I also agree that statistics are extremely useful in compiling risk factors and ascertaining probabilities... no argument there.
Attack me if you will, but I have no automatic trust in anything just because someone told me I should. I've survived this long researching things myself and making my own decisions based on all the information that I can find, even the conflicting studies by equally reputable (or disreputable!) sources.
Whenever I'm reading a position, I always stop to think about what the person reporting it may have to gain from it and what information may actually be missing from the conclusion and supporting information. If someone's motives are suspect and the data or logic seems a little dodgy, especially if the message is peppered with emotional triggers, then I'm just a little more likely to take it with a grain of salt.
As if you all thought that big agribusiness was just going to stand by and let THEIR market be invaded by locally produced products. However, the locally product product, raw milk production for example, must meet or exceed accepted sanitary regulations.
Do "people of the same trade" include government bureaucrats? No, of course not. Trust in the government should be blind and unshakable.
I wish I had a clue how you decided that nugget of wisdom was relevant to what I posted. Who on earth said we should just trust government? Maybe you missed the thread topic, but it's about the government getting too big for its britches - and, yes, colluding with big business.
Again - government is just people like you and me, it's neither always good or bad, and it always - ALWAYS - needs monitoring.
all that said, capitalism will always - ALWAYS - bring out the worst in those people who seek to profit by any means necessary. when those types get together and collude, it needs to be broken up.
The wonderful thing about being a liberal is that you never have to examine the results of anything. Its always about the theory or the intentions of the proponents.
The U.S. was (a) the most "capitalist" country of significance in all of human history, and (b) the most prosperous, egalitarian, generous, and peaceful country of significance in all of human history.
Oh, if we could just be more like France or Russia or Cuba. They know how to make a top down controlled economy work, right?
As if you all thought that big agribusiness was just going to stand by and let THEIR market be invaded by locally produced products. However, the locally product product, raw milk production for example, must meet or exceed accepted sanitary regulations.
I agree with you as long as the regulations are accurate, reasonable, appropriate to scale and market, and are not just entry barriers designed to reduce competition.
The wonderful thing about being a liberal is that you never have to examine the results of anything. Its always about the theory or the intentions of the proponents.
The U.S. was (a) the most "capitalist" country of significance in all of human history, and (b) the most prosperous, egalitarian, generous, and peaceful country of significance in all of human history.
Oh, if we could just be more like France or Russia or Cuba. They know how to make a top down controlled economy work, right?
1) Funny that you would think that the only people interested in motive would be the Liberals... hmm, our Founding Fathers must have been Liberals then because they were some pretty suspiscious folks who always looked at motive not just outcome. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were their attempt to moderate "the Ends justify the Means" mentality.
2) Our version of capitalism is a far cry from Free Market Capitalism and is rapidly approaching a government sanctioned ogliopoly. (hmm which is sort of like Socialism, no?)
3) As for the rest of your ascertions, I think we might be living in two different countries, or have different definitions of those terms, or a completely different understanding of history and other cultures.
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