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Old 10-06-2010, 12:02 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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I cannot believe the things some people complain about:

Hush! Frito-Lay to pull most noisy SunChips bags - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101005/ap_on_bi_ge/us_noisy_sunchips_bag - broken link)

Heres a company trying to do something good for the environment and people complain about the "bag being too loud"!
Aren't all potato chip bags loud to a degree? haven't these people heard of a thing called a BOWL?
I'm not defending Sun chips because I eat them( Im not really much of a chip eater)....but some things that people complain about just irks me. Now, due to the complaints they are going back to mostly plastic bags . So much for trying to help the environment.
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:36 AM
 
Location: I'm where I want to be. Are you?
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I cannot believe the things some people complain about: Heres a company trying to do something good for the environment and people complain about the "bag being too loud"!

I guess they can't hear the television over the noise the bag makes when their hand is dipping into the bag.

As I suspected, those who complain about these bags don't give two hoots about their environment. Now, in order to sell their chips, the company is going to have to design a quieter bag. Sheesh.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Interior AK
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Screw that! I'd keep the enviro bags and realize that the market lost to the nosiy bag complainers would be more than made up for by the folks who actually do care about the environment. For everyone who complains about a change, there's always someone who appreciates it
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:11 AM
 
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I cannot believe the things some people complain about:

Hush! Frito-Lay to pull most noisy SunChips bags - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101005/ap_on_bi_ge/us_noisy_sunchips_bag - broken link)

Heres a company trying to do something good for the environment and people complain about the "bag being too loud"!
Aren't all potato chip bags loud to a degree? haven't these people heard of a thing called a BOWL?
I'm not defending Sun chips because I eat them( Im not really much of a chip eater)....but some things that people complain about just irks me. Now, due to the complaints they are going back to mostly plastic bags . So much for trying to help the environment.
You are missing the concept of the issue. Many people want to be cleaner, they do many things to achieve such, but doing so in a manner that is impractical is not an option many accept, nor should they.

If they want to make bags that are better for the environment, then they need to push the bar a bit and provide a product that is the same in performance as their existing product and achieves more in the area of focus they seek than their previous product.

Requiring customers to take an inferior product because the company has placed its political goals above the well being of its product is what kills a business and rightly so. Customers should not be the ones to take the hit. Either the business can find a solution that works, or they lose business.

And the bags were not simply "noisy", they were massively loud. So loud that the bag reaches levels of hearing loss (90 decibels) and this is unacceptable. It isn't that it is a worrying of losing hearing, it is the fact that a stupid bag of chips obtains such an impractical level in the first place.

If you don't mind, then buy their chips. Others do mind and stopped buying them because of it. Until you legislate mandated purchase of these bags of chips, this company is going to have to rely on the old fashion system of serving the customer, not making demands to it.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:18 AM
 
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Screw that! I'd keep the enviro bags and realize that the market lost to the nosiy bag complainers would be more than made up for by the folks who actually do care about the environment. For everyone who complains about a change, there's always someone who appreciates it
Change isn't the issue. The bags were terrible. I tried one out in the supermarket the other day. I grabbed it and ruffled it around a bit and everyone in the store who could see me turned and looked at me (and I wasn't even being strong with it).

As for someone being noisy with the bag, likely if it were just a public area, I would move on, yet if it were someone in a movie theater or other area where I paid to be there or the level of noise needed to be reduced, well... I would be sure to have the owner of the establishment show them the door.

People shouldn't have to take inferior products as solutions. This is just poor thinking on the people putting them out, letting their emotion to an ideology drive their solutions above that of practical nature.

It is my biggest complaint about a lot of these green products. They only seek to improve their main purpose and everything else takes a loss because of it. Companies who are irresponsible to their products as such do not get my business, nor do I think they will be able to stay in business with that attitude. I guess that is why so many of these groups are pushing for mandates through legislation. They know their solutions would fail in a free market due to their inferior nature, so they dictate to people what they must have. It is a sign of the lack of ability to innovate.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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They only seek to improve their main purpose and everything else takes a loss because of it.
I really can't stand this I'm-so-picky, you-must cater-to-my-every-whim attitude.

oh no, the bags are too loud! Really?

Have we gotten so soft as a country that if every whim is not catered to perfectly, we get offended by it?
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:29 AM
 
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I really can't stand this I'm-so-picky, you-must cater-to-my-every-whim attitude.

oh no, the bags are too loud! Really?

Have we gotten so soft as a country that if every whim is not catered to perfectly, we get offended by it?
It would seem so.
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Old 10-06-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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bummer, as I like sunchips & have been composting the bags with fine results.

I will confess that the new bag made it difficult to get away with snacking at late hours as it woke up the missus!
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix
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And the bags were not simply "noisy", they were massively loud. So loud that the bag reaches levels of hearing loss (90 decibels) and this is unacceptable. It isn't that it is a worrying of losing hearing, it is the fact that a stupid bag of chips obtains such an impractical level in the first place.
"Massively loud"? Hearing loss caused by a bag of chips? lol
Come on.
Wait til we have inoperable farming land and a horribly polluted environment to live in then talk about loss!
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Old 10-06-2010, 10:23 AM
 
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I really can't stand this I'm-so-picky, you-must cater-to-my-every-whim attitude.

oh no, the bags are too loud! Really?

Have we gotten so soft as a country that if every whim is not catered to perfectly, we get offended by it?
Welcome to the world of the free market where the business caters to the need of the public and not the public to the business.

Why should I buy a product that irritates me? If I don't like it, I won't buy it. Where does it say that I must buy these products if I do not like them? Where am I required to serve the business and them not me?

It appears you have a very confused view as to what a business actually does. It provides a service to the people out of a demand for such a service. If there is no demand, they there is no purpose to its service. You seem to argue that the position of a business is to create a demand and that the consumer is to conform to that which the business provides. It is a concept that is at odds with everything that a free market exists.

As I said though, if you believe in no freedom to which the business dictates to the consumer, then I assume you also believe that government should dictate to the business there by allowing a perfect little socialistic enterprise where freedom is what you decide it is for others.

Look how angry you are getting because people would rather have a bag that doesn't sound like a car wreck when they eat. Keep in mind, that bag is not the reason people buy the chips and so it should be less important to the business trying to push it on the public. It appears the company understands why they exist, though you appear not to.
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