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i'm not saying charge it 100%, but if you had solar panels on the roof, trunk, and possibly hood it could run much of the electronics while the car is running, decreasing consumption from the charged battery and then when parked in the sun could charge the car during the day without even being plugged in, or speed up the charging if it's also plugged in. sure, it's not going to charge a vehicle, but i think we'll see them be placed on laptops, cell phones, street lights, and other small devices as time goes on. think outside the box a little.
You might get 150w (1 square meter) of solar panel surface on a car. Since the Leaf probably uses about 15,000 watts going down the road I doubt that the use of solar recharging would be detectable under any conditions. The whole electric car thing is a big old scam. Interesting fashion accessory for the trendy and green conscious. Alternative transportation? Not with lithium battery technology.
Each car has a "sweet spot". I had a 2005 Dodge Ram with a Hemi. Setting the cruise control at 49mph I could get 26mpg. That was the highest mileage I ever saw.
Then you have my sympathy.... I get 31MPG at 60MPH and 28MPG at 80MPH -- V6 VTEC, 275HP
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Here is an article:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/***/driveHabits.shtml (broken link)
Sorry, Page cannot be found, wild cards in a URL is a killer....
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Which pretty much says there is no set speed, but anything over 60 and you'll start seeing losses.
Agree, but not substantial losses as was posted earlier..... Maybe 30 years ago this was true..
You might get 150w (1 square meter) of solar panel surface on a car. Since the Leaf probably uses about 15,000 watts going down the road I doubt that the use of solar recharging would be detectable under any conditions. The whole electric car thing is a big old scam. Interesting fashion accessory for the trendy and green conscious. Alternative transportation? Not with lithium battery technology.
the volt barely made the list of top 10 green cars, but the leaf i think made it into the top 5. i'll find the article, but the methodology supposedly includes environmental impact of the battery technology. the article did speak about how the leaf is better in some parts of the country than others, based on what that part's energy source is (more renewable, better score for leaf).
Then you have my sympathy.... I get 31MPG at 60MPH and 28MPG at 80MPH -- V6 VTEC, 275HP
Sorry, Page cannot be found, wild cards in a URL is a killer....
Agree, but not substantial losses as was posted earlier..... Maybe 30 years ago this was true..
Driving at snail speed to save a buck ain't worth it.....
I've never driven any appreciable distance at 40MPH to see what my gas mileage is like, I'd probably either die of old age or boredom if I tried...
honestly, if many people just used cruise control more often and kept tire pressure at a good level for their vehicle, could probably save a decent amount of cash and fuel. i'd be less concerned about speed (within reason) and more concerned about those things. i don't drive 55mph everywhere i go, but that doesn't change the facts that you experience lower fuel economy as you go faster when you are up in those ranges.
honestly, if many people just used cruise control more often and kept tire pressure at a good level for their vehicle, could probably save a decent amount of cash and fuel. i'd be less concerned about speed (within reason) and more concerned about those things. i don't drive 55mph everywhere i go, but that doesn't change the facts that you experience lower fuel economy as you go faster when you are up in those ranges.
I don't see anywhere in any post that disagrees with the fact the faster you drive your gas mileage is lower........
I use cruise control on the open highway because I'm lazy, not because I want better gas mileage....
Of course with the Leaf gas mileage is a moot point...
LMAO, with a normal car when you run out of gas you just get a gallon of gas in a can...
With the Leaf you call a tow truck when the batteries run out......
I get 31MPG at 60MPH and 28MPG at 80MPH -- V6 VTEC, 275HP
I highly doubt this is true.
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Agree, but not substantial losses as was posted earlier..... Maybe 30 years ago this was true..
Driving at snail speed to save a buck ain't worth it.....
On the best shaped cars they can get max efficiency at higher speeds. But most cars see substantial changes (even if you choose not to believe it)
Pick an article (since Google is hard for you to work): cars get better fuel economy at lower speeds - Google
Cruising at 38 miles per hour with ambient temps of 68 degrees, you could squeeze 138 miles out of the Leaf.
Averaging 24 mph in city traffic drops range to 105 miles, assuming air conditioning (A/C) is not in use on a 77-degree day.
In heavy stop-and-go traffic, averaging just 6 mph with temps of 86 degrees and A/C on, range drops to 47 miles.
At 55 mph on the highway in 95 degree temps and A/C on, expect range to be 70 miles.
Winter temps of 14 degrees with the heater on, will drop range to 62 miles in stop-and-go traffic, assuming an average speed of 15 mph.
It's sweet spot is 38mph, similar to the 40-50 for most cars. Regular highway driving and you'll see 30% drop. With the AC you'll see near 50% drop from max range.
Anyone that wants to "reduce pollution" or save money can drive slower on the highway. I personally don't care that much, and neither does the rest of America.
I just drove from Houston to San Diego and back zeroing out my computer after every fill up to watch my mileage.....
You don't believe me? No sweat off my back.... I'm sure you have the exact same car, drove it the exact same way and drove the exact same route I took to call me a liar..
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On the best shaped cars they can get max efficiency at higher speeds. But most cars see substantial changes (even if you choose not to believe it)
Pick an article (since Google is hard for you to work)
I love it, another elitist know-it-all......
BTW sonny, I have worked in the computer field for 40 years and am quite aware of Internet search engines and some of the BS they return. First time I got on the Internet was 1986, Unix ASCII terminal......
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Electric cars are really hit hard by power increases: Nissan pegs Leaf range between 47 and 138 miles, individual results may vary — Autoblog Green
It's sweet spot is 38mph, similar to the 40-50 for most cars. Regular highway driving and you'll see 30% drop. With the AC you'll see near 50% drop from max range.
Anyone that wants to "reduce pollution" or save money can drive slower on the highway. I personally don't care that much, and neither does the rest of America.
Did you bother to read ALL the posts in this thread?
Did you see #48, #53, #57?
Probably not, the high-and-mighty just like to criticize from illiterate pedestals.......
LMAO, if you KNOW no-one cares why did you bother to post what YOU think everyone else in America thinks?
I don't see anywhere in any post that disagrees with the fact the faster you drive your gas mileage is lower........
I use cruise control on the open highway because I'm lazy, not because I want better gas mileage....
Of course with the Leaf gas mileage is a moot point...
LMAO, with a normal car when you run out of gas you just get a gallon of gas in a can...
With the Leaf you call a tow truck when the batteries run out......
someone asked for some evidence to prove "this myth"
as for the Leaf, if you run out of charge, it's most likely due to poor planning on your own part. i think it's well known that the car is not for everybody and is not for every trip. but since it's the first gen model, I'd like to assume that range will increase over time as more cars come out.
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