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Old 04-26-2011, 06:24 PM
 
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a lot of the energy is used to create heat instead of light. I think. It is not ideal in the summer when you are trying to cool a house and then creating heat with lights.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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a lot of the energy is used to create heat instead of light. I think. It is not ideal in the summer when you are trying to cool a house and then creating heat with lights.
Can you come up with facts instead of I think????? ~ You know, like this:

A 60W light bulb on 24x7 for a month:

60watts*24hrs/day*30days=43200watt-hours or 43.2 kilowatt-hours

I have AC that more then compensates for the miniscule amount of heat my lightbulbs and candles generate at night....

I'd rather put up with heat issues than health issues that come with CFL light bulbs.

I was never concerned about the heat of lightbulbs before CFL came along, why should I be concerned now?

When one of my incandescent light bulb breaks I sweep up the broken glass and throw it in the trash....

When a CFL light bulb breaks I have to refer to the EPA's three page instruction book on how to clean it up....

I guess you are concerned about cooling your house and then heating it up with your computer, monitor and modem too....

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Old 04-26-2011, 08:44 PM
 
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.........But, pray tell, WHICH lightbulbs are safe? GG
To the best of my knowledge, while less efficient, the traditional incandescents are safe. LED's are a diode, again safe, efficient, more expensive, somewhat trial and error to find an appropriate lumen output.
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Old 04-26-2011, 08:52 PM
 
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To the best of my knowledge, while less efficient, the traditional incandescents are safe. LED's are a diode, again safe, efficient, more expensive, somewhat trial and error to find an appropriate lumen output.
A lumen output between 2400 and 3200 lumen should be good for most people and it's pretty close to a regular lightbulb. Anything over 4000 lumen will appear very white (for reference, a regular production model car with xenon headlights will be 4300 lumen).

It can be a bit trial and error to find a bulb with the right output (power/candela) and also finding one that'll last (some of the cheap china made are really bad), but once you find them, you're essentially lighting your house for hardly any money at all, without heating it in the process.
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Old 04-28-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Can you come up with facts instead of I think????? ~ You know, like this:

A 60W light bulb on 24x7 for a month:

60watts*24hrs/day*30days=43200watt-hours or 43.2 kilowatt-hours

I have AC that more then compensates for the miniscule amount of heat my lightbulbs and candles generate at night....

I'd rather put up with heat issues than health issues that come with CFL light bulbs.

I was never concerned about the heat of lightbulbs before CFL came along, why should I be concerned now?

When one of my incandescent light bulb breaks I sweep up the broken glass and throw it in the trash....

When a CFL light bulb breaks I have to refer to the EPA's three page instruction book on how to clean it up....

I guess you are concerned about cooling your house and then heating it up with your computer, monitor and modem too....

Well i am not telling you what to do, but if you want to go grab a 75 watt bulb after it's been on for even just a few minutes, feel free. it creates quite a bit of heat. there is really no debating that.

I personally hate CFLs and don't use them much. The light is hideous and I also do not want to be near mercury. They also don't work well in the cold. I use task lighting and in the winter, use lighting freely as electric heat is not much more expensive than other methods of heating where I am .

LEDs... I dunno. I am not convinced the light from them is that nice of a light either.

in the summer yes I am concerned but my computer is my job so not much I can do there. I have considered upgrading my CPU which could drop 30 watts from power usage which is huge. I also keep the heat sink cleaned out which makes a huge difference as well.

With regard to heat and appliances, here is 1 easy trick. If you run the dishwasher at night, you can simply use the delay button to have it start 4-6 hours later at night when it's cooler. Also electric cost in the middle of the night may be slightly cheaper.
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