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Old 05-25-2011, 09:07 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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These days, driving anything is a death wish.
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Old 05-27-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Is this just a European model or something that is coming to the USA?
There are numerous cars that look like their American counterparts, but the engines are different. If we had a planetary standard then we may see them someday and we'd get the same mileage as the European versions. But our problem right now is that we don't have enough diesel refinaries to handle the increase in consumption if these cars starting showing up in the lower end of the car market. Thus we would have to import diesel fuel which in turn will make the fuel more expensive than normal petrol/gas. The last refinary built in the US was in 1976 and due to NIMBY we will not see another one.

The great oil refinery shortage. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine
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Old 05-28-2011, 03:58 AM
 
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yes the jetta will get about 67 mpg on the freeway the golf and the new passat will get that to it will get abot 40-50 mpg in the city. depending on your driving habbits also keep that in mind to but it will do it seen a few cases where the jetta was doing 84mpg but those were real pofessional drivers to. and unlike hybrids wich are a hoax and based on false sience you can fill up a diesel with people and all your stuff and it won't be put put put put around town unlike hybrids. theres no batties to worry about = savings hybrids are more on the ins for me would cost me $ 50.00 more a month. and the new diesels have been blowing the hybrids through the roof as far as mpg youde have to fill a prius up before a jetta
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:09 AM
 
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YouTube - ‪Racing Under Green 2008 - Part 1‬‏
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:12 AM
 
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YouTube - ‪Audi R18 testing at Sebring in 720p HD‬‏
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Old 05-28-2011, 04:16 AM
 
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YouTube - ‪Audi A3 TDI Review - How Far Will It Go?‬‏
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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There are numerous cars that look like their American counterparts, but the engines are different. If we had a planetary standard then we may see them someday and we'd get the same mileage as the European versions. But our problem right now is that we don't have enough diesel refinaries to handle the increase in consumption if these cars starting showing up in the lower end of the car market. Thus we would have to import diesel fuel which in turn will make the fuel more expensive than normal petrol/gas. The last refinary built in the US was in 1976 and due to NIMBY we will not see another one.

The great oil refinery shortage. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine
Which is insane to me. We have these monsterous seats-25 diesel pickup trucks roaring through town, rattling all the dishes in the house as go by, spewing their smokescreen, burning outrageous amounts of diesel, with one clown in the cab, in epidemic proportion. That's okay. But a small diesel car is not allowed. Brilliant. I think our auto industry has it's head screwed on backwards.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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Did you look at where the driver's legs would have been in those tests had the vehicle been occupied? Sorry, IMO no driver would have survived those crashes (or at least highly unlikely) as the lower body of the driver would have been completely crushed/severed. The videos do not give us a picture of what happened on the passenger side interior.
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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Which is insane to me. We have these monsterous seats-25 diesel pickup trucks roaring through town, rattling all the dishes in the house as go by, spewing their smokescreen, burning outrageous amounts of diesel, with one clown in the cab, in epidemic proportion. That's okay. But a small diesel car is not allowed. Brilliant. I think our auto industry has it's head screwed on backwards.
The problem lies in the EPA regulations and the different diesel mix being used for the vehicles in Europe vs. the diesel we use here in the USA.

Nasty judgement you pass on those with diesel pick-ups. Do you know they have not been using their vehicles for work or to haul things when you do not see them? Do you know that they do not need that ground clearance when out of town where they may use it? Do you know if they cannot afford a second vehicle so they can simply leave the large one parked when in town on errands?
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