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Old 05-24-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I recently read something about a Volkswagen Jetta (I think) that has a three cylinder diesel motor and gets around 70 miles per gallon. Is this just a European model or something that is coming to the USA?

Or if it is available here, does anyone have experience with it?
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Old 05-24-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Durham UK
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Wouldn't surprise me as most diesel cars do around 50mpg on highway eg VW Golf TDI, Seat Leon TDI etc etc. Nerly all cars in the UK are available in diesel.
USA is woefully bereft of economic cars- disgraceful really in this day and age.
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral, FL
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My husband bought the 11' Jetta Tdi and gets 48 mpg
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Volkswagen announces new 1.2L three-cylinder diesel — Autoblog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-three_engine

The Wiki article says the only North American vehicle that has that engine is the Smart Fortwo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_fortwo

And anyone who would drive that car in America has a death wish........



And they can be purchased from vending machines

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Smart_vending_machine_in_Shenyang.jpg/800px-Smart_vending_machine_in_Shenyang.jpg (broken link)

(just joking).....

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Old 05-24-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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And anyone who would drive that car in America has a death wish........
Surprisingly not that bad.


YouTube - ‪smart car crash‬‏

Strange as it is you'd probably be better off in a smart car than one of these old clunkers.



YouTube - ‪Crash Test 1959 Chevrolet Bel Air VS. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu (Frontal Offset) IIHS 50th Anniversary‬‏

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Old 05-25-2011, 05:43 AM
 
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Yup......

http://smartcarsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Smart-Car-Crashes.jpg (broken link)
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:15 AM
 
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An impact that can do that much damage is going to look bad no matter what car you're in. Granted you'll have more space for crumple zone but I'm guessing a mid sized car in that crash isn't going to be pleasant either, the big difference would be more damage to the truck.

Personally I'd certainly prefer being in the larger vehicle but my point was the smart car is surprisingly robust considering it's size. Chances are you are dead man in that 70mph crash in first video but it isn't because the car. Look at it this way, it's better than a motorcycle.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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it's better than a motorcycle.
Unless you're biking out in the boonies riding one is a death wish.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:38 AM
 
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An impact that can do that much damage is going to look bad no matter what car you're in. Granted you'll have more space for crumple zone but I'm guessing a mid sized car in that crash isn't going to be pleasant either, the big difference would be more damage to the truck.

Personally I'd certainly prefer being in the larger vehicle but my point was the smart car is surprisingly robust considering it's size. Chances are you are dead man in that 70mph crash in first video but it isn't because the car. Look at it this way, it's better than a motorcycle.

Lack of protection like a bike, but without the Speed, maneuverability, or ability to get through tighter spaces which a motorcycle has.


...So no.
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:02 AM
 
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Lack of protection like a bike, but without the Speed, maneuverability, or ability to get through tighter spaces which a motorcycle has.


...So no.
You're strapped into a seat with air bags, it's huge difference in protection. If you go back to that video of the 70mph crash you easily survive if the impact doesn't kill you. If you're on a bike you're now superman until you hit the unmovable object.

As far as maneuvering you ever see one of these cars? It's pretty damn close. LOL My brother's ATV is bigger.

Seriously though most accidents happen pretty quick and you never have time to react to them. I know most accidents involving motorcycles I see in the paper involve someone pulling out in front of a bike usually at an intersection because they never saw them. What might be small fender bender in any car turns into death on a motorcycle.

I have nothing against motorcycles but I have the same opinion as plwhit, it's death wish driving one in town.
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