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Old 08-23-2013, 03:31 AM
 
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Or not. Can't tell by looking.
You understand there is huge difference between a stream and a spring?

You're not basing this on looking, you're basing it on the knowledge that a spring is coming from an underground source. That doesn't guarantee its not contaminated but it's certainly far less likely than ground water from a stream.
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Old 08-23-2013, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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You understand there is huge difference between a stream and a spring?

You're not basing this on looking, you're basing it on the knowledge that a spring is coming from an underground source. That doesn't guarantee its not contaminated but it's certainly far less likely than ground water from a stream.
Fact is that there's an inference being made. The water coming out of your tap could be polluted. There is a practice of publishing tests of that water. To my knowledge, nobody tests spring water, so it could be anything. You're really just making a bet.

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Old 08-23-2013, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Eastern Kentucky
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I have to confess that I have no idea of what you are basing your posts on. Anybody's water can be polluted, and that includes any water from the municipal water source. 99.9 pure? What is the one percent? Yes , some of us test the water coming out of our taps. If you will just take the time to do some research, I think you will find that spring water, creek water and water from the water table are all different. In the Mountains, spring water is often water which has filtered through rock to a water course which has evolved at or near the surface. Creek water basically does the same thing, but it runs above ground for a course before emerging with the water table of the area.

Results? Spring water is the purest water, creek water may be contaminated by what it runs through, and water table is contaminated by what runs into it.
What does strip mining have to do with the subject at hand?
Do some research, then come back with honest concerns and questions and you will find people who are willing to listen and post thoughtful replys.
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Old 08-23-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I have to confess that I have no idea of what you are basing your posts on. Anybody's water can be polluted, and that includes any water from the municipal water source. 99.9 pure? What is the one percent? Yes , some of us test the water coming out of our taps. If you will just take the time to do some research, I think you will find that spring water, creek water and water from the water table are all different. In the Mountains, spring water is often water which has filtered through rock to a water course which has evolved at or near the surface. Creek water basically does the same thing, but it runs above ground for a course before emerging with the water table of the area.

Results? Spring water is the purest water, creek water may be contaminated by what it runs through, and water table is contaminated by what runs into it.
What does strip mining have to do with the subject at hand?
Do some research, then come back with honest concerns and questions and you will find people who are willing to listen and post thoughtful replys.
Not sure what your logic proves. You state a structural definition of it, but then you leap from that to a conclusion that is hopeful but not proven by the development. Filtered? Perhaps. A lot of water is filtered. Doesn't make it pure. Pumps draw from acquifers which filter the water. But it doesn't come out pure. Unless you actually test you are assuming. Frankly, people simply perform toxicity tests by drinking stuff. You live? "Pure enough". But impurities don't make people ill on the first dose. Even chemicals in our food aren't instant death.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Eastern Kentucky
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Who says we don't test our water? Tests prove that filtered, uncontaminated water is the purist. Depends on the impurities. Some impurities at a high enough dose are fatal. Do your homework then come back with numbers and we will listen.
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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Fact is that there's an inference being made. The water coming out of your tap could be polluted. There is a practice of publishing tests of that water. To my knowledge, nobody tests spring water, so it could be anything. You're really just making a bet.[/url]


If you actually look at the web site and read the comments section for a particular spring, you'd find that the local populace is usually generous with advice. Those that don't take water for testing, will say something like: "…have been getting 45 gallons there every 6 weeks for over 10 years" or "Just got the water test back – PH=6.21, Hardness=57 mg/L Total Dissolved Solids=30.9 mg/L, no heavy metals, no PCB’s, DDE, DDT, no Pesticides, no VOC’s."

Those quotes are taken from actual comments at 2 random springs I clicked on. That's the purpose of the project. It's a global effort to provide people with information about fresh water springs. Good or Bad

sheesh..........ya try to throw something out there for general edification and what happens?
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:01 PM
 
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Thanks for posting!

Ignore the rest...there's too many people on the Green Living forum who just want to argue and complain. I'd love to go visit one of these springs...
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Old 08-23-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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... and that includes any water from the municipal water source. 99.9 pure?
That's probably the least likely source of water contaminated with harmful bacteria becsue they add chlorine. Where I live the public water systems were built 100 years ago, they have many dams at higher elevations with vast tracts of land surrounding them. When I was a kid they had giardia outbreak, for months you weren't supposed to drink the water. They installed chlorine systems. The only trouble with these public sytems it wat happens to it between the treatment facility and before it get to the tap.

Even smaller systems are now required to do this, my Uncle lives on place that has a private system that serves about 50 households. They made them install it and the residents were not too happy.

Me personally I have private well and you'll have to pry that glass of cold water from my dead hands. I recently got back down in town and what a difference, when you live with that for years you get accustomed to the chlorine.
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Just want to add. Municipal water is not "free". The treatment is paid for by local taxes. We just don't get any special charge for drinking it. Of all the water, available, it probably is the most trustworthy. Anything else is just taking chances. And if you do test before you drink, hey, not free anymore. Now here's a fact maybe not mentioned. For most of human history, people drank free water only. The result is that their immune systems could react to microbes and destroy them. Now that we mostly drink purified water, we probably have made ourselves more vulnerable to all sorts of sickness.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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Just want to add. Municipal water is not "free".
That depends on where you are at, the water system that serves the area near me is privately owned and I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of customers. You pay per gallon but those rates are controlled by the state.


I'm at a high elevation with no industry, no agriculture and very little development. My water comes from my own private well 4 hundred feet below ground, when I fill a glass up from the tap it forms condensation, jealous?
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