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Old 07-07-2014, 09:31 PM
 
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In the "Downtown Disney" section of "the Magic Kingdom" in Florida, I noticed one particular gift shop called "The Pin Trader Company". This building has FIVE doorways. EACH doorway is twenty feet wide, and seven feet high. ALL FIVE doorways (totalling 700 square feet of open space) are kept wide-open all day long, 365 days a year, and the air conditioning just POURS out and is wasted. Here is a picture (Scroll halfway down): http://allears.net/btp/dd_market.htm

I just think this is outrageously irresponsible for the environment. Is there anyone I can complain to? In N.Y. City, I understand it's against the law to leave doorways continually open like this.
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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Here ya go, not technically challenging:

Let me google that for you

You do realize of course (I can't speak for all) many of these parks do the exact same thing. SeaWorld in San Antonio for example, almost ALL their stores have their doors open during park hours.

Yaknow, business model on customer patterns and such, been going on for decades. Something to do with the numbers of customers going to the stores at the same time. Closed doors would create a major customer traffic jam.

I guess you are upset that cities waste energy on lighting up their monuments, their buildings etc...

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Old 07-08-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Most of those resort types of places with wide open doors have an air pressure field across the doorway that prevents free flow of air. So, they don't waste as much air conditioning as you assume that they do.
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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oregonwoodsmoke beat me to the punch. There is a huge fan above the doorway that helps to keep the cold air in. And not that in Florida, evaporating water works all that well in hmid Florida (84% humidity in Miami yesterday) - but Disney has also put in a lot of water misters to help keep things cooled down. I affectionately call them mold growers - but they do work well in dry, arid, places.

I don't really think that Disney enjoys paying for or wasting electricity, I think they would rather put that money in their pockets. Too much movement to keep doors closed or automatically opening/closing in a lot of areas of the park. And too much liability. In addition, to the liability of having your "guests" drop out from heat stroke/exhaustion. Seen that a number of times personally in the park. One of the reasons, I avoid the place in summer - I don't want that to be me.

I would say that a lot of areas just shouldn't be A/C'd but that issue with people going into heat stroke walking around is kind of important. I familiar that issue since I lived in South Florida for 41 years and is one of the reasons I just moved out of the state.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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The Walt Disney World Resort has over 42,000 acres and you're worried about 700 square feet?

I personally love Disney and appreciate all they try to do to PROTECT and ENHANCE the environment (they've made mistakes in the past, but haven't we all?). But if I were looking for something negative to pin on them 700 square feet of space would not even come within the top 10.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Tough. Are you paying their electric bill? Don't like it don't go there...
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If I had my way, they'd put a glass dome over the parks and keep 'em air conditioned at a perfect 72-degrees all year round. If I'm paying a $100 a day to be at Disney World, I'd better be comfortable, whether it wastes a tremendous amount of energy or not.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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oregonwoodsmoke beat me to the punch. There is a huge fan above the doorway that helps to keep the cold air in. And not that in Florida, evaporating water works all that well in hmid Florida (84% humidity in Miami yesterday) - but Disney has also put in a lot of water misters to help keep things cooled down. I affectionately call them mold growers - but they do work well in dry, arid, places.

I don't really think that Disney enjoys paying for or wasting electricity, I think they would rather put that money in their pockets. Too much movement to keep doors closed or automatically opening/closing in a lot of areas of the park. And too much liability. In addition, to the liability of having your "guests" drop out from heat stroke/exhaustion. Seen that a number of times personally in the park. One of the reasons, I avoid the place in summer - I don't want that to be me.

I would say that a lot of areas just shouldn't be A/C'd but that issue with people going into heat stroke walking around is kind of important. I familiar that issue since I lived in South Florida for 41 years and is one of the reasons I just moved out of the state.
We have the same thing here in Denver with a certain grocery store chain. None of the stores have front doors, just a huge "hole" you walk through, maybe 20 feet wide. And they run the heat all winter, A/C all summer. But there is some "curtain" technology that keeps heat/cooling loss to a minimum.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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If I had my way, they'd put a glass dome over the parks and keep 'em air conditioned at a perfect 72-degrees all year round. If I'm paying a $100 a day to be at Disney World, I'd better be comfortable, whether it wastes a tremendous amount of energy or not.
Then you'd probably prefer Disneyland in Anaheim. It's a LOT more comfortable than that Florida gator swamp!
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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In the "Downtown Disney" section of "the Magic Kingdom" in Florida, I noticed one particular gift shop called "The Pin Trader Company". This building has FIVE doorways. EACH doorway is twenty feet wide, and seven feet high. ALL FIVE doorways (totalling 700 square feet of open space) are kept wide-open all day long, 365 days a year, and the air conditioning just POURS out and is wasted. Here is a picture (Scroll halfway down): Downtown Disney Marketplace at Walt Disney World

I just think this is outrageously irresponsible for the environment. Is there anyone I can complain to? In N.Y. City, I understand it's against the law to leave doorways continually open like this.
It's their electric bill, what do you care? You're not paying for it.
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